PT in my opinion. I have no idea if ROTS Sidious is better then his ROTS self. His knowledge might be a bit deeper, but his body is weaker at that point. I guess his chances against Yoda are still about 50/50.
Vader is a great force user and another - next to Sidious a solid point of his team. But I don't see him winning majority against Mace or Dooku. He may be a superior Force user, but he's not far above them. In that way, it will be decided by lightsaber duel mostly. And I consider both Dooku and Windu as his superiors as duelists. Even Maul is a bit above him in that department.
Kenobi and Luke are inferior to everyone in PT team.
Vader is superior to Mace in power, durability, and TK- they're even in speed and Mace is more skilled. Vaapad isn't helping him against him and Vader can take him while the Emperor blitzes and kills Tyranus and Maul
Even if you don't subscribe to the notion of the Emperor's speed, Luke is at least as fast as Maul and can hold his own against him for a bit.
Team 2 should take this 6-7/10
__________________ "Happiness is a lie. Life is horror. The light is always dying all across the universe. The last star will flicker out someday, when it does, all that remains is shadow. And I will be its king!"'-Amahl Farouk
__________________ "Happiness is a lie. Life is horror. The light is always dying all across the universe. The last star will flicker out someday, when it does, all that remains is shadow. And I will be its king!"'-Amahl Farouk
There is no evidence for a decline in speed. He just didn't need his saber anymore for the most part.
__________________ "Happiness is a lie. Life is horror. The light is always dying all across the universe. The last star will flicker out someday, when it does, all that remains is shadow. And I will be its king!"'-Amahl Farouk
He also grew more powerful in the Force, though. Besides, Sidious in RotJ was a clone--Likely very young, but ravaged by the effects of his immense dark side powah.
Sidious said at the beginning of DE that RotJ was not the first time that he had died, and it has been demonstrated in-panel that his young bodies quickly assumed the decrepit form because of his power. I don't see any reason to find that to be lacking evidence.
On neutral ground Yoda would be able to hold his own versus DE Sidious, for a time at least. So RotJ Sids shouldn't really be an issue.
Dooku and Maul will beat Luke and Ben more often than not.
Mace has shatterpoint which may disable Vader, not to mention vapaad.
And like I said, at worst Yoda and Sidious kill each other.
On team 2 Luke and possibly Kenobi as well can be taken out by Force.
On team 1 only Maul is a weak link but he should be able at least tank whatever Force attacks come at him. Yoda, Windu and Dooku is enough to defeat Sidious and Vader.
Aug 24th, 2014 09:30 PM
