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Philosophía
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Originally posted by celeyhyga17
What I thought exactly would happen. Smh..

Thor is a peer of other top tiers like Hulk, Orion, Shazam(Billy), Hyperion, etc, etc... Now Superman could be stronger than most of these peers of his(debatable), but to claim that he is noticeably stronger than Thor by proxy would put these guys well below him too.

I'd also like to add that Thor is also a peer in overall durability, stamina, damage soak, and the like which would make this fight close.. Still taking Thor with the edge.

So no evidence, just broad, generalized, unsubstantiated claims.

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Superman is a peer to Darkseid, who is [at the very least] a peer of Thanos', who mudstomped Thor's peers and equals [Beta Ray Bill and Surfer]

Yay, claims!

Moron.

Go hide behind that rock and hope I don't come searching for you.

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Sep 13th, 2014 04:21 PM

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Originally posted by carver9
Look at his hand. When did he put the ring on ABHI? Especially looking at the fact that he had the Cape in his hand the entire time choking the life out of Wraith.

He took it after he had Wraith at his mercy.

Last three pages before that and he had never any ring in his hands.

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Its completely asinine to think Wraith's kryptonite played any part in that fight. Superman was kryptonite poisoned before that fight though.

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Originally posted by krisblaze
Simon flew at Thor and they exchanged blows...

Anyone he's ever beaten?

Take the battlezone challenge.

DCNU 52 Superman vs Thor in h2h skills only.

Take it, coward.

Go read the fight again. They grappled and Simon overpowered Thor from a lying position.

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Simon was owning Thor's ass in that fight. So much for skills, eh?

Why would I ever waste my time on that kind of BZ? You can end this discussion by posting Thor's skills feats where he beats someone stronger than him.

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Sep 13th, 2014 04:36 PM

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Originally posted by Philosophía
So no evidence, just broad, generalized, unsubstantiated claims.

Superman is a peer to Darkseid, who is [at the very least] a peer of Thanos', who mudstomped Thor's peers and equals [Beta Ray Bill and Surfer]

Yay, claims!

Moron.

Go hide behind that rock and hope I don't come searching for you.

Nope no hiding here. I just love to see unhinged people get so worked up about something they started in the first place. Feels good. You should try it some time. smile

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abhilegend
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Seriously though, what makes Thor a peer of DCnU Superman? Even secondary strength characters like wonder woman have closed reality fissures that could've destroyed earth in DCnU with bare hands.

Superman ripped Doomsday in half using pure strength. When has Thor performed feats like that?

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Abhi, you silly man.

Thor barely has any superstrength at that point, as he was under Hela's curse.

Not that it matters much as he's fighting with the hammer.

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Originally posted by abhilegend
Go read the fight again. They grappled and Simon overpowered Thor from a sitting position.

Why would I ever waste my time on that kind of BZ? You can end this discussion by posting Thor's skills feats where he beats someone stronger than him.

Okay? That's all it takes?

Thor (depowered during the Seth war) beat Grog the god-crusher after he had been tortured for a month or so...

http://s38.photobucket.com/user/Rag...sGrog6.jpg.html
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/Rag...sGrog7.jpg.html
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/Rag...sGrog8.jpg.html
Courtesy to Rage for the scans.

And another one, where a powerless Thor kills trolls, who are around class 20-30...
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...eatsTrolls1.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...eatsTrolls2.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...eatsTrolls3.jpg

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Originally posted by krisblaze
Abhi, you silly man.

Thor barely has any superstrength at that point, as he was under Hela's curse.

The fight was after Thor 383. Thor's bones were healed before that fight.

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Not that it matters much as he's fighting with the hammer.
Its h2h.

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Okay? That's all it takes?

Thor (depowered during the Seth war) beat Grog the god-crusher after he had been tortured for a month or so...

http://s38.photobucket.com/user/Rag...sGrog6.jpg.html
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/Rag...sGrog7.jpg.html
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/Rag...sGrog8.jpg.html
Courtesy to Rage for the scans.
What Rage didn't tell you that Thor still had half of his strength as Balder had siphoned half of his strength. Go read the comic.

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And another one, where a powerless Thor kills trolls, who are around class 20-30...
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...eatsTrolls1.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...eatsTrolls2.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...eatsTrolls3.jpg

Seriously? Did you even read the scans? And two pages later some random humans kicked the crap out of a hoard of the same "20-30 tons trolls".

http://i.imgur.com/wadCwDL.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/enEIzAB.jpg

In fact one of the humans breaks a troll's arm.

Its amazing how much context you can hide.

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Sep 13th, 2014 05:05 PM

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Originally posted by abhilegend
The fight was after Thor 383. Thor's bones were healed before that fight.

Its h2h.

He's holding the hammer, but yeah, then it was post-recovery.

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What Rage didn't tell you that Thor still had half of his strength as Balder had siphoned half of his strength. Go read the comic.

You go read the ****ing comic.

Loki was the one who restored half of Thor's strength, after.

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Originally posted by abhilegend
Seriously? Did you even read the scans? And two pages later some random humans kicked the crap out of a hoard of the same "20-30 tons trolls". Go read Thor 500 and come back.

No I didn't read the comic now, I haven't read it in over 10 years.

It doesn't matter, Thor showed more skill there than DCNU Superman ever did.

Why don't we take this to the battlezone, and I'll prepare my comics smile

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Sep 13th, 2014 05:09 PM

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I like Thor, but the Thor fans are getting owned here. Must keep my mouth shut or look as stupid as Silent Master et al.

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Originally posted by krisblaze
He's holding the hammer, but yeah, then it was post-recovery.

Good.

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You go read the ****ing comic.

Loki was the one who restored half of Thor's strength, after.
I have. Thor wasn't depowered and Grog is only class 30. Even half strength Thor is stronger than Grog.

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No I didn't read the comic now, I haven't read it in over 10 years.
Lulz.

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It doesn't matter, Thor showed more skill there than DCNU Superman ever did.
Claiming and doing something is different.

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Why don't we take this to the battlezone, and I'll prepare my comics

Why waste my time if all you have are out of context scans?

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Thor obviously showed more skill though no expression

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/...p;pagenumber=16

You can look at this though. If it doesn't change your mind then we can take it to the battlezone.

Absorbing Man was on his way to become heavyweight champion before this went down, mind you smile

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Originally posted by krisblaze
Thor obviously showed more skill though

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/...p;pagenumber=16

You can look at this though. If it doesn't change your mind then we can take it to the battlezone.

Absorbing Man was on his way to become heavyweight champion before this went down, mind you

What is so good in dominating people weaker than yourself? And here is the context regarding Thor vs Grog.

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Balder took half of Thor's strength away. Grog defeated Thor then in previous battle. And then Balder died giving Thor his powers back. So yeah, Thor was never depowered to begin with.

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And there is not a single feat of dominating someone stronger/faster than himself. So, no. Its not sufficient. If I tried, i could find context in nearly everyone of those showings though.

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Sep 13th, 2014 05:34 PM

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What is so good in dominating people weaker than yourself? And here is the context regarding Thor vs Grog.

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Balder took half of Thor's strength away. Grog defeated Thor then in previous battle. And then Balder died giving Thor his powers back. So yeah, Thor was never depowered to begin with.

I looked it up now.

Balder mentions half, but the comic makes it seem a lot more serious...
Stripped me of my godly strength
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Shorn of his godly powers
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Mortal I may be
http://imgur.com/eF1iBtH

Such an act would leave him defenseless
http://imgur.com/erP3i3h

So don't talk about half of his strength :/

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I also looked up Thor 500 again.

There is 1 troll being killed by 7 humans and 1 asgardian.

Thor kills another troll on his own, and then several frost giants later no expression

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I also looked up Thor 500 again.

There is 1 troll being killed by 7 humans and 1 asgardian.

Thor kills another troll on his own, and then several frost giants later

You're a Norwegian who lives in Japan. That makes no sense. We can't trust a word out of your mouth!

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You're a Norwegian who lives in Japan. That makes no sense. We can't trust a word out of your mouth!

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Originally posted by abhilegend
He took it after he had Wraith at his mercy.

Last three pages before that and he had never any ring in his hands.

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Its completely asinine to think Wraith's kryptonite played any part in that fight. Superman was kryptonite poisoned before that fight though.

So you're saying he put the ring on and took it back off? We never seen him put it back on tbh.

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Also, it doesn't matter when he put it on, the ending result matters. We don't know if Superman would have got the defeat if he didn't use the ring in the end.

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It seems to me Thor's strength was fading and didn't just go in 1 go. But it's pretty clear he's considerably weaker than Grog but still kicking his butt. But as usual Abhi will go to any lengths to lowball Thor's abilities.

Also not everything is about pure feats. There a tremendous amount of implied combat ability from someone whose been a Warrior for thousands of years. When Superman has been a warrior for even hundreds of years, then start the comparison of combat skill.

Superman does however have a strength advantage h2h. Whether that's enough to give him the win or not I'm not sure. But my money would be on Thor, especially with Mjolnir.

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