How is she going to penetrate his thick plate armor? He is much stronger than her, much bigger than her, has better endurance than her, and can hack her with one blow of his greatsword. Her best strength feat is punching through a wooden coffin, the Mountain's best strength feat is crushing a man's skull.
Oberyn's fight with Ser Gregor took place in A Storm of Crows, not A Game of Thrones.
Either way, Oberyn toyed with Gregor, and it wasn't the Manticore Venom (spiked with sorcery) that rendered him barely incapacitated either. It was blood-loss and Oberyn's spear that had pierced his belly and pinned him to the ground that did.
Seeing how the bride is a faster, more hard-hitting and (presumably) uses superior steel she shouldn't have any issues dealing with Gregor.
Last edited by Astner on Sep 22nd, 2014 at 10:03 PM
He was still strong enough to literally crush Oberyn's skull despite the blood loss and being pinned.
Even in this state he's much stronger than The Bride.
Oberyn at one point also had to throw his spear aside or else he would die (Once Gregor powered through and took away Oberyn's advantage of range), with Oberyn surviving because of his shield (Which Uma doesn't have), and because Gregor in a rage grew distracted and killed a helpless bystander (This could happen I guess).
Oberyn won by using a weapon with greater reach than Gregor's (Which Uma doesn't have), by blinding him with the sun (Which she can't do as easily), and by having the stamina to fight him for an extended period of time without being hit (Which she hasn't shown, to my recollection). He also had a weapon that is actually built for stabbing, as opposed to cutting.
Is she faster and stronger than Oberyn? Could be. Superior steel? Maybe. She also uses a weapon that can't cut through chainmail effectively, much less plate as thick as Gregor's.
This is Gregor's fight to lose. He's fighting a much weaker, more easily damaged foe who has to get well within his reach to so much as scratch his armour.
He let go of the spear because of the close range, and before he caught Gregor's second swing with his shield he side-stepped the first one. All and all, Oberyn didn't need his shield, he decided to use it.
You're also forgetting that the Bride's agility and perception well crossed over into what would be considered super-human. Oberyn's, in comparison, was only human.
Considering how he got headaches for no reason while fighting, yeah, he'll probably will have a hard time focusing.
No, he won by being faster dodging Gregor's every swing with ease. The only instance where reach came into play was in the scene you mentioned above when Oberyn was too close.
I'd dare to say that a 1080 steel katana could easily cut through chain mail and boiled leather and that the tip could easily penetrate tempered steel plate, which is far more durable than Gregor's plate especially since Oberyn's spear could penetrate it.
But even if you want to ignore all that, Gregor's visor had a slit in it that allowed for sight, and the Bride was quick and precise enough to catch a sword in mid-swing in its sheath.
Glad we agree.
Last edited by Astner on Sep 23rd, 2014 at 12:13 AM
I don't think so. IIRC, she was able to stalemate the pirate-eyed chick after spending half the night breaking out of her coffin, and digging herself out from below the ground, not to mention while having that awful salt-gun shot wound in her gut. She just had a sip of water before going off to face against the pirate-chick.
But yeah, Gregor's sheer strength, size and armor give him an almost unfair advantage in this fight.
I don't have time at the moment to respond to your long post but I have enough time to expose you as a liar at least.
That quote was in reference to Gregor cutting the head off Oberyn's spear. A far smaller, more maneuverable, and faster target than the Bride. Who has nothing to keep Gregor off of her, with the exception of her little katana.
As NemeBro pointed out, that dialogue is open to interpretation.
Even if it is literally true as pertains Oberyn's reaction time and reflexes, I am pretty sure it's a rhetorical hyperbole as I doubt that most ordinary athletic humans have fly-level reflexes.
Pretty sure that's not wrestling slang, and more of a generic phrase.
Yeah, that might be the case. I don't have the book in front of me like I did yesterday.
Either way, Oberyn had no issues dodging Gregor's blows while occasionally smacking him with his spear and taunting him while waiting for a confession.
Even though the Gregor's plate was pierced by a spear—twice in one blow considering how it with through the front-, the body, and the back of the armor as well a good bit into the ground—there are at least three weak spots. The slit in the visor, the back of the knee and the arm pit, the latter two being protected by chain mail and boiled leather.
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