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TheTyrant
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Why is Will Smith playing Deadshot?

If they want a black guy in there why not actually put in an established black character instead of altering another well-known character ffs. So dumb

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They should've Black Manta, But hey welcome to WB's


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Hiring a black actor to play a white character isn't anything new.

I like Will Smith for Deadshot.


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Hiring a black actor to play a white character isn't anything new.
Well that shouldn't ever be a norm. Don't have a white person play a black character and don't have a black person play a white character. It's that simple and nobody will get mad.

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They call it diversity

and i totally agree with what you said above.


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I'm surprised this hasn't made a little buzz at least from people who actually care about Deadshot as a character. I mean last time I checked he's the 2nd best assassin in DC universe so he's not that irrelevant of a character for them to do this. A lot of folks were mad because of the black stormtrooper shouldn't even be a problem if you actually know your Star Wars but this has been pretty much under the radar as far as I know.

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Well that shouldn't ever be a norm. Don't have a white person play a black character and don't have a black person play a white character. It's that simple and nobody will get mad.


The general audience won't care. Most people don't even know who Deadshot is. I could care less, really, I just want a good performance from Will Smith. And ultimately a good movie. I have faith in Ayer. I've liked 90% of what he's done.


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I'm surprised this hasn't made a little buzz at least from people who actually care about Deadshot as a character. I mean last time I checked he's the 2nd best assassin in DC universe so he's not that irrelevant of a character for them to do this. A lot of folks were mad because of the black stormtrooper shouldn't even be a problem if you actually know your Star Wars but this has been pretty much under the radar as far as I know.


It's because Deadshot, even though he's a big deal inside his own universe, isn't a big deal in terms of the general public.

You want something bad, look at Aquaman.


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Well that shouldn't ever be a norm. Don't have a white person play a black character and don't have a black person play a white character. It's that simple and nobody will get mad.


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Well that shouldn't ever be a norm. Don't have a white person play a black character and don't have a black person play a white character. It's that simple and nobody will get mad.
This. JUST THIS. It's lazy as hell. mad


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Stan Lee's response is good one for all this sort of diversity crap when he had his say a while back

"Says Create New Characters, Instead Of Altering Originals"


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Stan Lee's response is good one for all this sort of diversity crap when he had his say a while back

"Says Create New Characters, Instead Of Altering Originals"
BUT, BUT that would take LOGIC and EFFORT. Who needs that when we can just piss of a ton of people and get others to throw race cards around?? AMIRIGHT?


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A ton of people? Hardly anybody knows about Deadshot. That being the General audience. Not saying it's right, but I have faith in Will Smith and David Ayer's vision. The only people that are going to get angry is the one percent that actually like Deadshot.


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A ton of people? Hardly anybody knows about Deadshot. That being the General audience. Not saying it's right, but I have faith in Will Smith and David Ayer's vision. The only people that are going to get angry is the one percent that actually like Deadshot.
Make Superman black. Watch what happens....


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Make Superman black. Watch what happens....


This is about Suicide Squad. Deadshot is a C list character, which hardly anyone knows about. Most people aren't going to care (except for the few hundred nerds) that Deadshot is black.


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This is about Suicide Squad. Deadshot is a C list character, which hardly anyone knows about. Most people aren't going to care (except for the few hundred nerds) that Deadshot is black.
That's not the point. The point is, it should not be done at all. Because sure, some minor characters won't get the AMOUNT of backlash, but do you not care for the fans of Deadshot? Do you not care for the fans of Human Torch? How would YOU feel if one of your favorite characters was changed? THAT'S The point. It shouldn't be done, period. No matter how you slice it, it's lazy and wrong.

I like Will Smith, but it was still a mistake.


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That's not the point. The point is, it should not be done at all. Because sure, some minor characters won't get the AMOUNT of backlash, but do you not care for the fans of Deadshot? Do you not care for the fans of Human Torch? How would YOU feel if one of your favorite characters was changed? THAT'S The point. It shouldn't be done, period. No matter how you slice it, it's lazy and wrong.

I like Will Smith, but it was still a mistake.


To each his own. I could care less. As long as it's a good movie.;


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To each his own. I could care less. As long as it's a good movie.;


So you either avoided the question, or just admitted you wouldn't care if your favorite character had their race/sex changed. Which one? It's couldn't care less btw...


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So you either avoided the question, or just admitted you wouldn't care if your favorite character had their race/sex changed. Which one? It's couldn't care less btw...


I didn't care about HT being black or Kingpin being black or Nick Fury being black or Baron Mordro being black. If my favorite character was portrayed by a black actor, I wouldn't care as long as it's played well.


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I didn't care about HT being black or Kingpin being black or Nick Fury being black or Baron Mordro being black. If my favorite character was portrayed by a black actor, I wouldn't care as long as it's played well.
Alright, you answered the question. Thank you. Now:

1) All the characters you mentioned above have fans that disagree strongly with your opinion. They do care. And it certainly didn't help things.

2) Nice Fury in the MCU is based off of Ultimate Nick Fury who was directly based on Samuel L. Jackson. So he's not a miscast at all.

3) The point is, even if you don't care, there are TONS of people that do. It's just a stupid/ lazy thing for studios to do.


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