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maxivitopowe
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Originally posted by riv6672
Ha. I'll admit to that, when YOU admit to jumping on with a complete bias to one character, ready to lowball and disregard anything other characters can and would do because it negatively impacts your stunted world view.

Which means i'll never have to "admit" to anything. smile


The feats of other characters (more powerful than these) that harmed Preboot prime are relevant for these guys against DCNU Superman?

I'm asking you how these guys would harm Superman.

Your reply was that he's been given a fight by weaker rogues.

He hasn't.

You continued to claim that? That lightning lad was able to pull some shenanigans and hurt Prime....? Sounds like you don't know anything about the guys fighting Superman either, AND you're apparently confused about what Superman they're fighting...


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So, you admit nothing.

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So, you admit nothing.

Admit to your wild claims? No.

I even said that Man-Thing could hurt Superman, more than a lot of other posters in this thread.

ZopZop, Pym-ftw and Tk-Tina are worse fans than I am? Because they're giving Superman easier wins than I am...

Why can't you just provide stuff relevant to the debate here, you have yet to;

a) Provide a credible way for them to hurt Superman

b) Show DCNU Superman's "weaker" Rogues, that apparently are lesser than these.


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Sounds like it'd be the three stooges, with super powers laughing out loud

Characters fight at their best....


Meh. Honestly if Bobby were better this would be a good match. The others arent gonna help mt at all imo


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a) Provide a credible way for them to hurt Superman.


Could've sworn i provided a tactic that could be used by the two electricity users on the team.

Oh wait.

You dismissed it because it was used pre reboot. So, since people have been punched using super strength pre reboot, thats no longer a viable tactic either.

Hey folks! Krisblaze has just invalidated every combat tactic used by all DC characters, unless the characters were created after the reboot!

This will make forum fights MUCH more interesting.

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Could've sworn i provided a tactic that could be used by the two electricity users on the team.

Oh wait.

You dismissed it because it was used pre reboot. So, since people have been punched using super strength pre reboot, thats no longer a viable tactic either.

Hey folks! Krisblaze has just invalidated every combat tactic used by all DC characters, unless the characters were created after the reboot!

This will make forum fights MUCH more interesting.

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A tactic used by 2 other characters, who are more powerful and resourceful than the ones in this thread, and also happen to be team-mates no expression

And it wasn't even Superman they attacked, and it wasn't even this Superman they could've attacked.


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So you agree with me, as:

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A tactic used by 2 other characters, who are more powerful and resourceful than the ones in this thread


Could apply to attacks using super strength, speed, tech, magic, TP...

Not to mention the whole "invalidate the tactic because it was used pre reboot" part of your earlier argument, which you conveniently didnt address.

Congratulations, Krisblaze, you just broke the internet.


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So you agree with me, as;

Could apply to attacks using super strength, speed, tech, magic, TP...

Not to mention the whole "invalidate the tactic because it was used pre reboot" part of your earlier argument, which you conveniently didnt address.

Congratulations, Krisblaze, you just broke the internet.


I think we should get a rule clarification or something then.

If you really feel that the feats of 2 characters with similar powers should apply to the characters here.

There's just no way you can logically bridge that gap or even make that connection, but if you feel strongly enough about it..


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The only thing that needs clarification is your understanding of my posts.

I said the same tactic would be viable, in the same way someone'd say nerve strikes worked in one instance on this character who's in the same league power wise as character A, so character B could use the same type of attack in this fight.

Its nothing that hasnt been done here before, except that this time, you're involved; over thinking, nit picking, low balling, disregarding...basically doing what you can to prop up Superman.
In a fight he's already lost.


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^There's no proof that the characters in this thread, who have never worked together, is capable of that.

You haven't proven that they're capable of doing it.

Or that they'd be fast enough to catch superman with it.


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Oh noooz not the dreaded speed rebuttal!
laughing out loud
Took you longer than usual to fall back on the flavor of the month fror Superman getting every win.

Lets see where was i?
"Characters in this thread...never worked together...capable of doing it..."
Get real.
As per the forum rules characters will be at their best. Even random characters thrown together are going to use teamwork; never seen you or anyone else say otherwise.
Are they capable of using a coordinated electrical attack successfully? The fact that the example i cited worked, makes me think it would.
You dont agree? Prove me wrong.
And before you say something like "there's no proof..." Bear in mind that you havent shown any proof other than stating your own opinion.
An opinion based on ignoring the forum rules and selective application of PIS/CIS in Superman's favor.

Oh, yeah, BTW, team wins this versus. thumb up


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You're not really familiar with the forum rules then thumb up

You might not know, since you're probably never read any, but there are hundreds of incidents where Superman uses speed that say Sand-Man or Zzax couldn't keep up with. It's not a made up or proxy argument.

Your lightning-lad argument is.

They fight to the full extent of the abilities they've displayed, not the full extent of those abilities...


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Riiiight, i expected more tired nonsense from you.
I got it.
Please, keep replying. All this does is keep me from getting bored.
The win's gone to the team and now you're just wallowing in misinformation and selective reading, ignoring forum rules and latching onto meaningless arguments.
I'll be sure to remember this creativity...
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They fight to the full extent of the abilities they've displayed, not the full extent of those abilities...

...when you conveniently argue the opposite in a few days.
This is what makes you a fanboy.
This is why people here think you're sad.


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I'm not mad, but i'll let it go; he never will.


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I'm not sure what's going on in this thread but feats aren't interchangeable. Just because Thor can do a feat with Mjolnir does not mean Beta Ray Bill can do it with Stormbreaker. The same goes with Superman and Shazam. And we go by feats on KMC, not powersets.


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Superman wins 10/10

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Mud-Thing- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/mudthing.htm and Man-Thing combine?


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