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psycho gundam
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Cool Battlezone: BEATBOKS VS PSYCHO GUNDAM

So this was inspired by the Inamalist tourney dying prematurely.
Similar rules like how it's mixed genre but it's a straight battlezone.

Um I guess it's set in a city like Manhattan or whatever

- 5 mins of prep before the fight

I think Leo is posting the OPs lol


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lol sure. post when i get home if beatboks gives me his op....


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BEATBOOOOOKS. COME OUT TO PLAAAY.

BEATBOOOOOKS. COME OUT TO PLAAYAAAAY !!!


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BEATBOOOOOKS. COME OUT TO PLAAAY.

BEATBOOOOOKS. COME OUT TO PLAAYAAAAY !!!

Sorry just realized I sent my opener to a user called Leo not leonadis. Have hopefully fixed that. Shouldn't be too many surprises for you. At least half (if not more) of the scans in it were in the links I gave you for approval of my characters.

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Start of write up
" team into -

Team leader Terry Sloane nu52 earth 2. Sloane is a ruthlessly cold andnlogical individual. Brilliant, but with little to no restaint. If he has to destroy civillians on mass to acieve victory then that is exactly what he'll do

http://comicboxcommentary.blogspot....-earth-2-0.html

He has already in his limited appearances sucrifices large areas of earth 2 and the people of them in the fight against stepenwolf. Allowed his team mates to die. Been prepared to destroy Washington DC in a nuclear launch to win against solomon Grundy

Power house- Dark Nebula.
Being unequiely powered by two souls forced to occupy the same body after their death DN draws power from both. Cron thw alien warlord Cerelus he draws his psionic power. From the astronaught Mark Medula he draws the power of the darkfire. Unbeknownst to Mark he was decended from a long line of witches. This gives him powerful TP, TK, and a supernatural blast power with very few to equal.

Power enough to destroy/fry demons by the millions
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...of+demons+1.jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...of+demons+3.jpg

He also destroyed an entire civilization

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...ial+of+dn+2.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...ial+of+dn+3.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...ial+of+dn+5.jpg

My final team member is the mighty crusader Comet.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...s_easily_3_.jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...ls_easily_2.jpg

One thing all three members of my team have in comon. As you'll see from the scans none of them have any problem killing to achieve what they deem to be necessary. There is no length they wont go to to win.

Prep

My prep id pretty simply. My teams prep takes place in the 9th dimension base of Sloane. It was discovered bt Sloane the same way terriffic descovered it fromearth 1.

My prep will amount to Sloane getting his Mr 8 armor ( as seen in esrth 2 #0)
From their the remaining few minutes will be spent watching what we can of the potential futures one can see in the 9th dimenion. This small glimpse will allow my team to know some potential moves our adversary will make.


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psycho gundam wrote on Sep 24th, 2014 02:21 AM:
My team: Legion (Legion quest version), Kabuto (Naruto manga) and Edward Newgate aka "Whitebeard" (One piece)

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5 minutes of prep:

So first off The team will be in Kabuto's lair and then he will perform the edo tensei technique to bring forth his entire army.

Here is the summoning process in video format:



Nagato will use his ability to kill Whitebeard so that he can be prepared for edo tensei

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Using the captive, Kabuto will zombify Whitebeard

Here is the process being explained in video format:



Kabuto will place the talisman in Whitebeard and nagato will spend the remainder of the allotted time absorbing life force from all the captives.

Legion will form a mindlink between all of the assembled characters then erects his "psychic bunker"

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On the battlefield:

DEFENSE

So Whitebeard will be out front. Whitebeard's powers over the 3 Haki forms allow him to react to attacks before they come his way something like Spider-sense

Haki explaination in video format:



Observation haki is even better than Spider-sense cause it lets him know what's coming beforethe attack is launched, he's even able to react to attacks even while fast asleep:

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With the mindlink in place now all my team can react via observation Haki and act accordingly

Nagato can repel most attacks launched their way on a small scale:

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BUT there is also a MASSIVE repulsion version:

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See Legion's psi bunker scan for him and I will get into the edos later

ATTACK

For now I will open up with Whitebeard's devastating power. A side effect is that any attack Beatbox launches will be thrown off....the map we fight on will be thrown off in of itself Whatever Beatbox can do after that point is a mystery even to him:



LET THE HEAVENS TREMBLE


good luck gents.


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Legion is an interesting choice IMO for a BZ that you told me the limit was mid Herald for one pick and below for the rest.

No biggie, I can role with that, fortunately as I said Dark Nebula has ONE feat that defies Herald level but the rules (as I understood them) would deny it. If you break out the feats for Legion that IMO would also he'll be dealt with in short order. I can only assume you didn't look at any of the scans in the links I gave you to see if he fit the rules, unless that is you changed your team to include Legion after I gave you that (in which case fair enough)

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the 3 Haki forms allow him to react to attacks before they come his way something like Spider-sense

Observation haki is even better than Spider-sense cause it lets him know what's coming beforethe attack is launched, he's even able to react to attacks even while fast asleep:


Reaction is all well and good, but what good does it do if the attack that is coming is an AOE on a massive scale. As Shown in my opener Dark Nebula's dark Fire can destroy "millions" of IMMORTAL demons, as well as cause damage on a planetary scale. There will be no where to go to to avoid his initial attack.

That's not even taking into consideration the level of Comet's "thermonuclear / plasma blasts.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads.../2167007-09.jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads.../2167008-10.jpg
He not only vaporized an oil tanker (they have the capacity to carry 550,000 tons of crude oil) but it's entire cargo AND the ensuing fireball. That's a feat of vaporizing almost 1 million tons of material. This is equivilent to destroying ALMOST three empire state buildings.

I'd love to know where your think your moving to to avoid or "react" to any attack my team makes.

Let's also not forget that each of my team have been in the 9th dimension for our 5 minutes prep. The same 9th dimension that allowed Terry Sloane to see potential futures and plan to prevent them.
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/b...Page11.jpg.html

http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/b...Page18.jpg.html

5 minutes isn't much time to see things. Fortunately i only had one of my players doing anything and all he did was grab his existing armor. I would think that is a minute maybe two at most. That means I still had a collective 13 minutes of potential futures viewed in real time. Courtesy of a TP link from Dark Nebula all my team will be fully versed on what the others saw in that time. We will be ready for your opening salvo as well as any "reaction" you might have to it.

As for what we can "do" after your opening attack. Well frankly for the most part, a hell of a lot more than we could do before it. As you would have see in the second scan of DN destroying the civilization of Callai destroying his body simply releases his full power. the power of death itself. Thanks oddles, you just made my mane guy a mega threat. I have little doubt that legion could accomplish that his metal powers are up there but since it didn't do an overpopulated world of near Xavier psionics any good, it wont help him much either.

Destroying DN is virtually impossible. A primal force like Chaos
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/b...lpower.jpg.html

couldn't do it, because DN had "already crossed the veil between life and death".
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/b...18_05B.jpg.html

http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/b...18_03B.jpg.html

The only thing that Chaos could do was to split DN into his two halves Mark Medula and Cerellus and cast them to different points on the time line to get him out of his hair. This of course is within the pwoer of the over mid herald Legion to do, but he
1. Doesn't know that this is a requirement to deal with DN
2. Doing so will allow me to use the showing I had no intention of doing so because I saw it as a rule breaker based on the limits you stated.
3. DN came back from that and kicked his Backside.

Now my second team member is also a character who died.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...-++killed++.jpg

This was a retelling of the story from the 1941 Pep comics 17 (the same one in which his Brother became the hangman to avenge his killed brother). A retelling during one of his 80's comics in which he was still alive. Alive because when he flies he is partially in energy form. This isn't to say he can't be destroyed but there is certainly no certainly that your attack will do lasting damage to him.

My third team member wont be engaging in direct battle. No he's going to find a well enough equipped lab in this city to do what he does best. 5 minutes was simply not enough time to take advantage of his genius. A genius that in Earth 2 25ish put together while brainwashed a teleporter that could move a planet through space. Genius that in issue #0 put together a mutli level blast that literally blew holes through the core of the planet earth wiping out most of the parrademon force trying to conquer it, or synthesized a type of Kryptonite that sent Earth 2 Superman mad.

No Terry is going t be elsewhere working out the killing stroke, the Coup de gras.

That's it for now

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1 million tons of material. This is equivilent to destroying ALMOST three empire state buildings.


Need to correct that. It's a 1000 tons of material (I worked it out in kilos and forgot to divide by a 1000) which is almost 3 Empire State buildings (I believe it weighs around 340/ 350 tons ). Sorry just retread and saw he error.

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Time to talk about HIM



Anyway..

I actually used Legion in the tournament before so he wasn't a new addition nor illegal, the thread is even in this sub-forum *shrug*

The lightning stuff:

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums...zpsdca6cee9.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums...zps8ff12887.jpg

Storm couldn't even get his attention with her best lightning strikes and he can protect all of my characters since his bunker was the size of something like the volume of a commercial plane hangar, not to mention with the mind-link to Whitebeard the observation haki will alert him that the attack is being launched.

About the edo tensei horde:

Right before this meteor touched down Madara said this:
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The meteor:



(READ FROM LEFT TO RIGHT)

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They will just regenerate from damage.

About getting rid of Dark Nebula

According to you he's indestructible, well there is even a means around even that.

Enter: Itachi

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums...zpsf8bb71e4.jpg
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums...zpsd5b5c291.jpg

Now Legion can teleport him right behind Dark Nebula and that's that.. Legion has transported Storm through Space AND even time so it's a simple act.

That tech guy and the old-timey character are inconsequential I'm afraid. You've already chose to attack with something that would make his efforts to be useful with the whole finding a lab thing in a large city a waste of time, also the sensitive equipment in said lab would be damaged. Also Whitebeard can flip Manhattan onto itself [VIDEO IN OP] so I mean is he even alive at this point?

Either way I will send some sensor type ninjas to capture both of them, and use one of them to resurrect the other.


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The lightning stuff:
Storm couldn't even get his attention with her best lightning strikes and he can protect all of my characters since his bunker was the size of something like the volume of a commercial plane hangar, not to mention with the mind-link to Whitebeard the observation haki will alert him that the attack is being launched.

What "lightning stuff"? DN doesn't use lightning he uses dark fire. It's a soul attack. Also I'd love to see a single feat of Storm making any attack on a planetary scale. I showed you DN destroying entire overpopulated world on a planetary scale, and destroying millions of immortal beings. Storm not doing jack to him isn't even in the league, let alone the ball park.

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Now Legion can teleport him right behind Dark Nebula and that's that

Afraid it's not. For one thing DN is a powerful TPer. He would know that Itachi is behind him. http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/b...20_06B.jpg.html

He's also a powerful TKer.
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/b...?sort=3&o=3
That's an out of control space shuttle still under thrust being TK caught and casually landed by DN. The space shuttle empty (which it wasn't) weights 82 tons. it's rockets allow it to move 17,500 miles per hour in the atmosphere (mach 22). and DN could stop one telekinetically. I'm not even going to bother doing the math as to how big a feat that is. Put simply Itachi will run that sword through himself and DN will then have it to use against you.

Now if your suggesting that Itachi will take control of DN as per the first panel, think again.
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/b...?sort=3&o=4
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/b...?sort=3&o=5
DN is two souls in the one body. Originally both vying for control. After Mark destroyed Cerellus people and elevated them to the next level of existence Cerellus became a willing part of the union. You might take over one, but not two.

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Legion has transported Storm through Space AND even time so it's a simple act

REALLY, I warn you and STILL you play the time card?
Let's get this one out of the way right off the bat.
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/b...Chaos1.jpg.html

That is what DN did to Chaos when he split him into two and expelled him through time. He pulled Chaos to where he was in time and space and then did this

http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/b...Chaos3.jpg.html

I am not for one minute saying I'm playing this card. As i said to you in pm, DN had only one showing that could potentially put him above mid herald level

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beatboks wrote on Sep 16th, 2014 01:43 PM:
Honestly only read the first there posts on your link and that was good enough to give me an idea. Mid herald is the limit as I saw and three characters. My choices would be

Dark Nebula (Cyclone comics) - he does have one feat that might be classed as high herald but by the rules re time manip it wouldn't be allowed. Basically a powerful psionic with a soul based energy attack called Darkfire

Comet (MLJ comics) - think Cyclops on roids with flight

Still thinking of a third. That's one mid herald and one mid/maybe high meta ( probably Verging if not completely high. But if high low end of.

I'll give you links later so you can check them out. If needed I can show you some tourneys in which I used them.

With the team does it have to be street for the third. Thinking about. Terry slogans new 52 as the third option . Since I have three pretty out their never before used picks that would give me 20 minutes prep right?

As you can see i never intended to use it, and still don't. This is a pre-emptive defense only. You go that route and it's end game for you.

What I am saying is this. If you play a time manip card than I saw it courtesy of my view of potential futures in my 5 minutes prep. As Such DN enters the field and time manips Legion to have never existed. Your mind link and warning will amount to naught since the attack will have done it's damage before they were in play. That means all his part of your prep is gone and so is your protection. If that becomes the case then the rest of your team are left facing mine and even with your summons frankly either DN or Comet one shots the lot of them.

Now let's get back to playing in the ball park you led me to believe this thing was in shall we??

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That tech guy and the old-timey character are inconsequential I'm afraid. You've already chose to attack with something that would make his efforts to be useful with the whole finding a lab thing in a large city a waste of time, also the sensitive equipment in said lab would be damaged. Also Whitebeard can flip Manhattan onto itself [VIDEO IN OP] so I mean is he even alive at this point?


how would it make his efforts inconsequential?? my attack is soul based. The planet itself wasn't destroyed (DN was still standing on it at the end of his blast with everything intact). Yes his blast can have heat, and force but it doesn't have to.

As for flipping Manhattana and surviving, he created a teleporter that could move the entire planet earth in Earth 2 25. A smaller version of it is built into the armor he grabbed in prep. His whole thing is having seen futures and he can simply not be there. His armor also allowed him to survive a blast that Batman did in Earth 2 #0 that brought a mountain down on him (not without taking some damage I'll grant)

Comet has solo defeated a galactic army
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...ns_a_war_1_.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...ns_a_war_2_.jpg

see that last one, it's a "planet rending blast"

Send ninjas away, it's their death

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I'm not even going to bother doing the math as to how big a feat that is. Put simply Itachi will run that sword through himself and DN will then have it to use against you.

OK, So I did the math.

7486 m/s = Shuttles speed . 50,000m height of mesosphere (it originated higher being in orbit but no way of knowing how high that is)
t= sqrt of (s/(U+0.5a))
T = sprt of (50000/(7486+4.99))
T = sprt of (50000/ 7490.99)
T = sprt of 6.67
T = 2.58seconds
V= U +AT
v = 7486 + 9.98 x 2.58
V =7511.75 m/s
F = m x (change in velocity/ change in time)
Change in velocity is 7521.75 (in order the shuttle to be going up it had to be at least 10m/s in the other direction to counter earths 9.98 m/s downward gravity). Change in time a second
F = 82,000 kg x (7521.75x1)
F= 615963368.8 newtons
Since F= MA and to lift something you have to move it at least 10m/s that equates to a lifting force of 61596 tons

If he put's his mind to it (pun intended) no attack your launching is getting to him, or if it is it's not doing damage.

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What "lightning stuff"? DN doesn't use lightning he uses dark fire. It's a soul attack. Also I'd love to see a single feat of Storm making any attack on a planetary scale. I showed you DN destroying entire overpopulated world on a planetary scale, and destroying millions of immortal beings. Storm not doing jack to him isn't even in the league, let alone the ball park.


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Originally posted by leonidas
Power enough to destroy/fry demons by the millions
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...of+demons+1.jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...of+demons+3.jpg


Also: he didn't destroy millions of Demons as much as he held them back while in Hell, and said Demons are featless so that's why it means far less that advertised. If you want to see characters going into Hell realms or some equivalent and trashing Demons we can do that. Those are dime a dozen scans.

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Originally posted by beatboks
5 minutes isn't much time to see things. Fortunately i only had one of my players doing anything and all he did was grab his existing armor. I would think that is a minute maybe two at most. That means I still had a collective 13 minutes of potential futures viewed in real time. Courtesy of a TP link from Dark Nebula all my team will be fully versed on what the others saw in that time. We will be ready for your opening salvo as well as any "reaction" you might have to it.
I find this part baffling cause you don't recognize how much plot makes this part of your preparation work, but there is no plot. You essentially wasted 5 minutes for something you can't utilize.

Maybe if the judges say that I win then you get up to 13 chances to re-battle me, right?

Here is a real usage of seeing what happens before it happens in battle:



Itachi

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Originally posted by beatboks
As for what we can "do" after your opening attack. Well frankly for the most part, a hell of a lot more than we could do before it. As you would have see in the second scan of DN destroying the civilization of Callai destroying his body simply releases his full power. the power of death itself. Thanks oddles, you just made my mane guy a mega threat. I have little doubt that legion could accomplish that his metal powers are up there but since it didn't do an overpopulated world of near Xavier psionics any good, it wont help him much either.


Not being destroyed, he's being sealed. Also your powerhouse character doesn't have the means to utilize his own power, he needs outside help. All my characters have means to defend anyway.

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Originally posted by beatboks
Afraid it's not. For one thing DN is a powerful TPer. He would know that Itachi is behind him. http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/b...20_06B.jpg.html
Not that that scan means very much in the "powerful TP" department, but see even if that were fast enough to detect someone teleported behind them (which that feat isn't remotely of), Legion is mindlinked to Itachi so whatever spin you take on it ends with a mental clash with him and it's a loss for you.

Also, his blade is spiritual so your defense to it is dubious and the thing about it is that blade seals it's target and puts them in an inebriated stupor. Itachi also comes clad in powerful armour with a shield "that deflects all attacks" known as the Yata mirror. AND on the off chance you beat him from your blind spot then you have a regenerating zombie that can be used over and over again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaxsPZYh-Gw#t=1631
Madara

TIme manipulation

I just worded that sentence wrong. There is never time manipulation in tournaments/battlezones cause it gets too messy. What I meant to say was that Legion's control over time/space transport is so great that he has even done so through time without training.
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Originally posted by beatboks
As for flipping Manhattana and surviving, he created a teleporter that could move the entire planet earth in Earth 2 25. A smaller version of it is built into the armor he grabbed in prep. His whole thing is having seen futures and he can simply not be there. His armor also allowed him to survive a blast that Batman did in Earth 2 #0 that brought a mountain down on him (not without taking some damage I'll grant)
That's fine but you see you don't have the opportunity to use any of that stuff AND Manhattan is disjointed with everything destroyed by earthquake damage. That's being conservative since it's more like flipping a board game over and the pieces go flying. It's in video form so it's easier to understand (manga can sometimes be a little difficult to grasp) so I mean...

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Originally posted by beatboks
Comet has solo defeated a galactic army
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...ns_a_war_1_.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...ns_a_war_2_.jpg

see that last one, it's a "planet rending blast"

Send ninjas away, it's their death
And yet the planet was still there after it. That guy sucks and he can be destroyed easily

Here, I will kill them now

Okay so I have lots of zombies doing nothing.

Madara




Nagato




Deidara

10km blast


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Madara continued



Spores that put those who inhale them to sleep



Creates 25 clones of himself, and yes he does have them use their armour

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kakuzu



Ginkaku & Kinkaku

Both of whom can transform into these

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...and launch these..



Whitebeard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zgsM968eaI#t=139


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Originally posted by psycho gundam
Also: he didn't destroy millions of Demons as much as he held them back while in Hell, and said Demons are featless so that's why it means far less that advertised. If you want to see characters going into Hell realms or some equivalent and trashing Demons we can do that. Those are dime a dozen scans.


"Some take longer to burn than others". That's being destroyed mate not "held back". Also featless or not, they are immortal- it's the nature of a demon and none of your team are


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I find this part baffling cause you don't recognize how much plot makes this part of your preparation work, but there is no plot. You essentially wasted 5 minutes for something you can't utilize.

Then let me break it down for you. By seeing the future (just as you clip) you get to see one thing play out. By seeing alternate versions I get to see how things change because I was ready for it and acted accordingly. The plot as you call it is how you play your game. We are the story tellers of this plot and the actions you say your taking as part of the battle are what I see. I'm not saying I see the whole battle but I do see the first few (2 to 3)minutes both of your action and the changes that my reactions because I know about it will make to that. You example of a future view requires it to then see each new future as it's changed during the battle. DN and Comet will each see say 3 minutes of your intial assault. They will then see 2 minutes worth of the changes that are the result of it not working because we were prepared for it and had a counter ready to enact. Since Terry isn't actually engaging he seesa minute of what might come after him (allowing him to avoid) and then a minute each of his team mates altered changes. The mind link means DN and Comet are ready for 3 minutes of two time lines.

Consider that a waste if you want but it essentially it insures that your on the back foot for the first few minutes of the battle gaining no headway.

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Originally posted by psycho gundam
Not being destroyed, he's being sealed. Also your powerhouse character doesn't have the means to utilize his own power, he needs outside help. All my characters have means to defend anyway.


What outside help?? there is's a single scan i've used of him using anything but his own power. Unless your your referring to seeing the essence/being of Cerellus. Cerllus is one of the two beings who make up DN. If i'd chosen Firestorm would Martain Stein be "outside help"?? Originally Cerllus fought mark for control the entity but always lost. During the battle with Chaos they formed a truce. After mark destroyed Cerellus' people raising them to a new level of being cerellus became a willing union (meaning his full power was always at his disposal. Sorry dude but DN actually has access to every bit of power I've shown all along.

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Originally posted by psycho gundam
Not that that scan means very much in the "powerful TP" department, but see even if that were fast enough to detect someone teleported behind them (which that feat isn't remotely of), Legion is mindlinked to Itachi so whatever spin you take on it ends with a mental clash with him and it's a loss for you.



I already gave scans that showed the "power" level. In my opener when i showed him destroying Cerellus people he had up defenses against their entire race of psionics. A race that was so overpopulated it had raped it's home planet of resources, had sought out and conquered others and raped them. the whole reason Mark and Celrellus fought to begin with was that Cerellus was preparing an assault on earth to be his peoples next source of resources for the next few years.

He eventually succumbed to their onslaught (surprise surprise) but he held for a while. he ahs also traced a person psionically across the planet, as well as detected a callai space craft enter our solar system and track it to it's location on earth when landed (I'll find the scans tomorrow)

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Originally posted by psycho gundam
Also, his blade is spiritual so your defense to it is dubious and the thing about it is that blade seals it's target and puts them in an inebriated stupor. Itachi also comes clad in powerful armor with a shield "that deflects all attacks" known as the Yata mirror. AND on the off chance you beat him from your blind spot then you have a regenerating zombie that can be used over and over again.

So your big plan is to use a soul based weapon against a soul based energy manipulator that i have shown to manipulate said energy on a planetary scale. Yeah I really see that working out well for you. It's still used as a sword and to wield it you have to use a physical action which wont be possible with DN's TK and he can simply blast and affect the sword anyway.

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Originally posted by psycho gundam
I just worded that sentence wrong. There is never time manipulation in tournaments/battlezones cause it gets too messy. What I meant to say was that Legion's control over time/space transport is so great that he has even done so through time without training.

Glad to hear it, I have no problem debating that way but based on the link you gave me thought that was out of bounds. Also as I said in my PM that is the one aspect of DN that might make him high herald (though with characters like pre 52 Captain atom able to do similar probably not). As you can see with no training what so ever DN can do the same, so really no advantage.

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That's fine but you see you don't have the opportunity to use any of that stuff AND Manhattan is disjointed with everything destroyed by earthquake damage. That's being conservative since it's more like flipping a board game over and the pieces go flying. It's in video form so it's easier to understand (manga can sometimes be a little difficult to grasp) so I mean.. That's fine but you see you don't have the opportunity to use any of that stuff AND Manhattan is disjointed with everything destroyed by earthquake damage. That's being conservative since it's more like flipping a board game over and the pieces go flying. It's in video form so it's easier to understand (manga can sometimes be a little difficult to grasp) so I mean..

Dude Manhattan still has wire, copper, metals etc. Terry has his armor with all the tech he needs. Including teleporters, thrusters for flight, weapons etc. The guy made a bomb that blew holes straight through the core of earth in 5 places and took out an entire army of parademons with sweet f all prep.

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[B]And yet the planet was still there after it. That guy sucks and he can be destroyed easily


Yeah because it was aimed at the planet wasn't it. Oh no, that's right it was aimed at MLJ comics equivalent of Ultron and it blew the F out of him. It was aimed at a robot that could solo the Altoxian fleet, an advanced civilization that could teleport Comet from earth light years to their world to help them.

As for the rest, clearly you've run out of arguments so it's scan dump time. I'd offer more rebuttal but you really didn't actually give me anything to have to. Most of your counter is based on false assumptions taking individual scans already offered in isolation without considering the rest of the material that supports.

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LOL

There are like maybe 2 of your points that are backed up by an appropriate scan at best, and those things are covered by more than one countermeasure.

Like lets look at one hilarious example of this:
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Afraid it's not. For one thing DN is a powerful TPer. He would know that Itachi is behind him. http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/b...20_06B.jpg.html
How is this remotely indicative of that? It's just some stuff about memories.....

Itachi can even outperform that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdqORGcyBCk#t=497

Not to mention Legion himself who's oneshotted professor Xavier with a Psylocke-esqe psychic knife.

Legion actually has Tp/TK feats worth something. Just this sequence alone shows a lot of mundane acts including what makes "DN a powerful TPer":

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Freezes forge mentally, destroys her gun's electronics casually, reads her mind while levitating her , takes her into his mindscape, mindrapes her all the while shielded by a forcefield then casually teleports a whole x-team with the point of a finger

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"Some take longer to burn than others". That's being destroyed mate not "held back". Also featless or not, they are immortal- it's the nature of a demon and none of your team are
projecting.

Here, have another example of rejuvenating zombies:

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In video format in case there is farther confusion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvpLubW2WD8#t=57


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I was getting to that
psionic power.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...oul+to+life.jpg
Holding a deceased soul to its body is something any no power psionic can do right??

How do you think one shotting Xavier stacks up against withstanding teh psi attack of 20 billion psionics??? I'm guestimating here since they could rape so many worlds in such a short time. I mean our meager 7+ billion has raped earth of everything after how many centuries??? Obviously it hasn't always been that many.
Here is a couple of issues prior to the "no value scan"
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...+deep+space.jpg
Space ship light years away. I can't at this moment find the issue after (along with 6 other issues) where mark detects it passing Saturn or so, but here is a couple of pages later. he quite clearly has no problem tracking it down on our little mud ball.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...iop+tracked.jpg
Yeah you'll have no worries sneaking up on him. I mean your further away than saturn mounting this attack aren't you?? even if your not, he could track the ship from across country ( wee a few miles from the city anyway, he was at a military base. He also told them in my scan that was "not indicative of TP power" that Cerellus's freinds were coming. He must have just guessed heh?? bloody accurate guess.

But heh, that's alright I'm sure your attacking from Uranus right?? Let's just forget about the fact that I've already seen you port behind me in my glimpse of the future during prep.

I already posted one scan of DN's oriigin but here I hope is a clearer one.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...-d+n+origin.jpg
Quite clearly states in the scan that
"so we were both granted rebirth in my body with a 12 month option on dominant personality". A battle Mark usually but not always won. Proof that the two are one being.


Here is both the proof of the overpopulation of Callei and Cerllus no longer fighting for control, leaving mark his full power unfettered any longer.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...ial+of+dn+7.jpg

I've already shown most of the rest. It was quite clear that Coet only aimed his full blast at Gorgon. It was also quite clear that he had to give it everything he had (even more than he gave to vaporize a 350 ton tanker with 550 tons of cargo AND the fireball and cloud from it.

We've seen Terry Sloane know what was going to happen for years to come on earth two and act to prevent it (not to mention he has months ago alluded to events now showing obvious)

Yeah no proof at all of what I'm talking about.

The only one who will still be standing after DN's opening salvo is Legion. he then faces my entire team. Admittedly against him only DN and Comet (who would likely die but still do damage - he can certainly take anyone else on your team) will be able to fight him. Then again Terry is proving to be able to go up against some major powers (with none of his own). But after all we were supposed to have one street leveler.

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That's it?

Xavier was having mind sex with Lilandra from another galaxy


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.....and Legion as an untrained child was able to kick him out of his mind while he was in a catatonic state AND gives Magneto a nightmare then tosses him and his bed out of a window while he was thousands of miles away:
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They have another mental fight soon after and Xavier treats him as the most powerful villain he's ever faced

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Completely untrained and in a catatonic state. the Legion I have now is post-catatonia and has his fractured mind made whole by the Shadow king.

Since he's mind-linked to my characters, any effort to read their mind means you get shut out by a far better telepath.


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I was getting to that
psionic power.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...oul+to+life.jpg
Holding a deceased soul to its body is something any no power psionic can do right??
Legion EATS people's minds for breakfast.


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He's also a powerful TKer.
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/b...?sort=3&o=3
That's an out of control space shuttle still under thrust being TK caught and casually landed by DN.
Legion has a similar feat, now it wasn't a shuttle coming in hot but he was within his psy-bunker and did casually take control of the ship, project a mental image in all of the x-men's minds, teleport the occupants out of the failing aircraft and "parked it" somewhere off scene via teleportation most likely, all without seeing them visually

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Put simply Itachi will run that sword through himself and DN will then have it to use against you.


Impossible.

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That's it?

Xavier was having mind sex with Lilandra from another galaxy


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So lets get this straight, your comparing an active PSI feat to a passive one?? Using TP to actively engage a mind naturally has greater range and strength that perceiving something without even trying ( space craft entering solar system)

No remember, you brought Xavier into this, so you dug your own hole.
When Xavier wants to find a single mutant, how does he? He hooks himself up to Cerebro right? To do what i just showed DN doing without a problem he has to hook himself up to a machine that is so bloody big it needs a room in a mansion to house it.

Positive proof Dark Nebula >>>>>>> Xavier in TP.

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They have another mental fight soon after and Xavier treats him as the most powerful villain he's ever faced

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Completely untrained and in a catatonic state. the Legion I have now is post-catatonia and has his fractured mind made whole by the Shadow king.

Since he's mind-linked to my characters, any effort to read their mind means you get shut out by a far better telepath.


Ha ha,
1. Where do I say I'm "telelpathically reading" any bloody thing. I said TP sense. If a being has thoughts they are detectable by any telepath without being read. DN would Sense the presence of your man behind him. He doesn't need to since he's already seen it happen before you did it in pre, but on the off chance it happens more than 3 minutes into the battle he'll still be aware of it.

2. What a freaking non feat for Legion. Your first scan (I understand why you sized it so small - hoping judges would only look at the large one and take it at face value) clearly shows Xavier "suspects he will need his Psionic might" just before he encounters the Psi-wall David has. So when "all his might is focused on breaching David's PSI wall what defense does he have??? Very bloody little. In short it's a feat no greater pushing any nobodies mind around since there is nothing left for defense.

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Legion has a similar feat, now it wasn't a shuttle coming in hot but he was within his psy-bunker and did casually take control of the ship, project a mental image in all of the x-men's minds, teleport the occupants out of the failing aircraft and "parked it" somewhere off scene via teleportation most likely, all without seeing them visually
similar in type only the magnitude is vastly less and based on teh second page possibly incredibly vastly less. His statement that he "parked it" sounds like he simply took control of the stick which would be like a few pound TK feat and may be why they "lost control".

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Impossible.
Why may I ask, you have shown absolutely nothing that would indicate that he can wield this sword with a force capable of moving 61596 tons. I made that statement after referencing and quantifying the strength of DN's TK. I assume based on the above statemnt you made the false assumption that I'm TK possessing your (which I never once mentioned).

Your argument is probably going to be that David will TK re-inforce his actions. My question is this, if he does how can he also maintain shields for the bunker that will prevent DN's darkfire and Comets thermonuclear gaze from simply taking him out of the game. Holding this line costs you your most valuable player and leaves everyone else defenseless.

I like how you keep throwing up the hyperbole of 10 times his father in PSI his father is. All meaningless of course since we've just shown DN is vastly greater than his father too since he can do without effort what Xavier needs Cerebro for
http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb...ncannyXmen7.JPG
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/_...27s_Cerebro.jpg
Massive device isn't it? And Charles has used it to amp his power SOOOO many times
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-8lQdcSFA7...600/barrier.jpg

to recap so far.
1. You've not offered an effective counter for my initial onslaught of dark fire. Your "impenetrable bunker" has nothing to prove it can withstand a planetary level attack because it's never faced one. It's also never faced a soul based attack. Sorry dude, human nukes just don't cut it they aren't even continental and neither is any attack you've shown on it.
2. Any Attempt by Legion to assist any member of your team achieving a tertiary goal, diverts his focus from the bunker and will likely cost you him. Since most of your attacks and counters rely on him (port Itachi behind Nebula, protect Itachi from DN's TK, etc etc) to proceed with any pretty much ensures he falls and leaves your team to face mine without him. Since the defense of this bunker is already dubious at best against the level of threat it faces not a good stance to take.
3. Your attempt to flank just simply fails. Every member of my team will be aware of this being your choice of action before you even enter battle and will be able to deal.
4. Even if that flanking isn't one of the things we saw in advance you can only achieve it if your so far out of range for it not to matter (because DN's TP rang vastly exceeds that of a sword soul based or not.
5. There is also the highly dubious nature of your prep. You only have 5 minutes and some of the vids you loaded as examples show a few minutes each for each feat. Honestly I have my doubts you can even achieve that much in the allotted time frame. By my estimation your overall prep takes more like 7 minutes for some characters and others can't do what you want until your team mates have. You'll notice I really haven't committed to much at all because we have so little time.

None of your attacks have thus far succeeded and you've actually not offered a viable counter to some of mine. Your prep is questionable within the time frame. Considering I'm only using two of my team of three to engage you and you summoned how many minions? that is quite astounding.

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