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quote: (post ) Originally posted by krisblaze
Oh when he flew through the alternate earth?
I don't know why, but it didn't impress me at all actually. Seems like something Superman, Hyperion, Gladiator, Thor or any of the mid/high heralds could do.
Surfer exploded a planet in Annihilation as well I suppose, and Thor's broken a few planetoids/the moon when he was beating on him/warlock.
Anyways, on the list it would probably be killing Superman with one punch (if he's the one we're using for HH).
Something similar has happened.
I thought killing a high Herald would be like the 5th choice here with the lasso, Juggernaut forward momentum, etc, being number one.
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Sep 26th, 2014 12:57 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Something similar has happened.
I thought killing a high Herald would be like the 5th choice here with the lasso, Juggernaut forward momentum, etc, being number one.
It takes less than planetary force to stop Juggernaut, if it didn't then the Earth would have gave in BEFORE War Hulk stopped him. Anyway, I don't see Juggs moving planets with his enchantment.
The lasso cannot be broken through pure strength, it takes some type of context (like truth and magic).
Anyway moving the Earth using a significant acceleration could take more than 100 Earth weights of force or more. It takes less than 1 Earth weight of force to destroy Earth itself. Going by averages, a shot that can destroy a planet in one blow should kill a high herald. Going by high end showings then
1. Breaking the lasso
2. Pushing the Earth using a significant acceleration
3. Killing a high herald with a punch.
4. Destroying Earth with a single hit
5. Destroying adamantium (the same size as the Uru)
6. Destroying enchanted Uru
7. Stopping Juggernaut.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Star428
I think it's a toss-up between breaking the lasso and destroying Earth with a single hit.
Moving the Earth using a significant acceleration takes more force than destroying it with a punch. A lot more. Think more than 100 Earth weights or more.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by krisblaze
They're probably thinking of Hulk flying through an asteroid the size of earth or something.
Grey Hulk who was hurled against it, i remember and would say it is a durability feat, he didn't punch though.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by abhilegend
SMP did it.
SBP flew just through it iirc, though unlike Grey Hulk under his own power.
But straight up by a punch?
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I'd say so.
Strength definitely comes into it.
After all, if the Flash (who has kept up with Superman before) has the same amount of thrust propelling him - would we say he can push the Earth as well? Def not.
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^Hulk had some rocket thrusters attached to him or something, stuff was retarded anyways.
It was just a large rock, nothing like a planet (despite people wanting to equate it to a planet-busting feat)
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by krisblaze
^Hulk had some rocket thrusters attached to him or something, stuff was retarded anyways.
It was just a large rock, nothing like a planet (despite people wanting to equate it to a planet-busting feat)
He had rocket boots and was also shot out of a cannon or something like that.
IF a bullet smashes through body armour, do we say the bullet was 'strong'?
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It was def strength in play of that ft. A lot of strength. Him flying into something is just like Prime flying into Earth, no difference. The only difference is, that meteor was twice the size of Earth.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He had rocket boots and was also shot out of a cannon or something like that.
IF a bullet smashes through body armour, do we say the bullet was 'strong'?
Can't believe I agree with this guy.
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Juggs is 1 imo
then High herald
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Mindship
Yeah, I did Not recall correctly...
2×10e32 joules = gravitational binding energy (GBE) of the Earth (this is what you'd have to overcome to one-shot the Earth).
2.7×10e33 joules = Earth's kinetic energy in its orbit (presumably what you'd have to match to move the Earth in similar fashion: more than 10x the GBE).
Both figures are >500,000x what the entire Sun puts out every second...and yet, a single death-shot to Supes is still more impressive.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by krisblaze
^Hulk had some rocket thrusters attached to him or something, stuff was retarded anyways.
It was just a large rock, nothing like a planet (despite people wanting to equate it to a planet-busting feat)
Drax also did it, twice. Terrax did it in one attack.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by krisblaze
Oh when he flew through the alternate earth?
I don't know why, but it didn't impress me at all actually. Seems like something Superman, Hyperion, Gladiator, Thor or any of the mid/high heralds could do.
Surfer exploded a planet in Annihilation as well I suppose, and Thor's broken a few planetoids/the moon when he was beating on him/warlock.
Anyways, on the list it would probably be killing Superman with one punch (if he's the one we're using for HH).
When did Thor destroy a moon fighting Adam Warlock? And if we're going by energy attacks lots of people have done that.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He had rocket boots and was also shot out of a cannon or something like that.
IF a bullet smashes through body armour, do we say the bullet was 'strong'?
Rocket-springs, ftw!
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It's more of a durability feat, than a strength feat, for Hulk.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Sabro
Stopping Juggernaut wins
why? What's the greatest force or obstacle Juggs overpowered with his unstoppable enchantment? I don't see War Hulk killing a herald with a single punch. And I don't believe Juggernaut can move planets with his enchantment.
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Sep 28th, 2014 05:01 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by h1a8
why? What's the greatest force or obstacle Juggs overpowered with his unstoppable enchantment? I don't see War Hulk killing a herald with a single punch. And I don't believe Juggernaut can move planets with his enchantment.
The god blast. He walked through it. Pushed War Hulk
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
The god blast. He walked through it. Pushed War Hulk
Was there an occasion other than this one then?
I just wasn't too sure.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
The god blast. He walked through it. Pushed War Hulk
he didn't overpower it. If he did then it would have been impressive. War Hulk wasn't that strong at first. So him pushing him back is nothing. After war hulk stopped him, I seriously doubt war hulk could one shot KILL a herald with a punch.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by h1a8
why? What's the greatest force or obstacle Juggs overpowered with his unstoppable enchantment? I don't see War Hulk killing a herald with a single punch. And I don't believe Juggernaut can move planets with his enchantment.
I feel like stopping him is skyfather level achievement as he is powered by being who hangs with Elder Gods.
Sep 29th, 2014 04:58 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarkRaiden
Juggs is 1 imo
then High herald
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Sabro
Stopping Juggernaut wins
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