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Etherean Fire
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Eh...

I wouldn't say that.


It's just what I gather. I don't hear many say otherwise, and I wouldn't myself.


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Go look at gameFAQs or check the user score on metacritic. Seems TP is far more liked.

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TP is the most critically overrated game in the Zelda series, lol.


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Originally posted by ares834
Go look at gameFAQs or check the user score on metacritic. Seems TP is far more liked.


Or I could just talk to real people... like I usually do.


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And get a terrible sample sure. thumb up

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And get a terrible sample sure. thumb up


I guess two oddly specific sources would work better?


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And get a terrible sample sure. thumb up


GameFAQs and metacritic aren't exactly reliable sources, either. Heck, quanchi posted an IGN review of Skyward Sword that gave it 10/10 and called it a complete masterpiece.

I tend to distrust these things is what I'm saying, IGN included.


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GameFAQs and metacritic aren't exactly reliable sources, either. Heck, quanchi posted an IGN review of Skyward Sword that gave it 10/10 and called it a complete masterpiece.

I tend to distrust these things is what I'm saying, IGN included.


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I wouldn't call it perfect myself (still objectively better than TP), but I can see where they're coming from.

The important thing is to think for yourself on these things, even if you heard it somewhere else first. Because even the most concise, refined, or profound review of anything is still just someone else's opinion.


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I guess two oddly specific sources would work better?


Oddly specific? Metacritic is the biggest user review site I know and GameFAQs the largest video game forum I know of.

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GameFAQs and metacritic aren't exactly reliable sources, either. Heck, quanchi posted an IGN review of Skyward Sword that gave it 10/10 and called it a complete masterpiece.

I tend to distrust these things is what I'm saying, IGN included.


MetaCritic and GameFAQs provide a large sample size while IGN's review is a single person's thoughts on the matter. Not saying they are perfect however, nor am I claiming TP is better than SS just using it to show that people seem to prefer TP over SS.

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still objectively better than TP


"Objectively better" lol get the f*** out with that s***. It's nothing more than your subjective opinion.

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Oddly specific? Metacritic is the biggest user review site I know and GameFAQs the largest video game forum I know of.


And they're the two of many that you decided to cite, and they just so happen to agree with you? What a f**king coincidence. thumb down


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nor am I claiming TP is better than SS just using it to show that people seem to prefer TP over SS.


But you basically did say that.


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"Objectively better" lol get the f*** out with that s***. It's nothing more than your subjective opinion.


If you didn't butcher my post, you would have caught my end statement clarifying that. (Hell, this entire conversation is on a matter of subjectivity. Hence your prolonging it.)


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At no point did ares say he thought SS is better than TP.


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At no point did ares say he thought SS is better than TP.

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Gross. SS is one of the only Zelda games that I think is legitimately bad. The game is so damn tedious and Fi is hands down the worst Zelda side kick.


I know it says "one of", but I otherwise don't understand why he'd be so militant about it.


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And they're the two of many that you decided to cite, and they just so happen to agree with you? What a f**king coincidence. thumb down


If you have a source with a large sample size that disagrees post it. I just used two of the largest and easiest sources to find. I don't care enough to cherry pick through the internet especially since I find both to be subpar games.

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But you basically did say that.


Where? I just said that TP seems to be the more universally liked game.

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I know it says "one of", but I otherwise don't understand why he'd be so militant about it.


And? Even if I do think SS is the worse game what does that prove exactly? I never claimed it was objectively worse or any such bull shit. I just disagreed with you statement that more people like SS. And no, after replaying it I've come to think that TP was quite a mess as well.

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You could have left it at that too, but you had to get arrogant about it. When citing those two sources as "proof", aren't you essentially putting your trust into them? And when claiming personal indifference, does that not conflict with your entire argument (as in why you would to begin with)? If it truly doesn't matter to you, why not leave it the f**k alone?

On the subject of objectivity, when put to thought, it's little more than educated subjectivity, and it's by no means something to get pissy about when used in casual discussion. Yes, it's still just an opinion, but the difference is in how it's formed. Rather than leaving something at "OMG, 10/10!" or "Eh, it's OK." or "This sucks! I don't like it!", someone decides to draw a conclusion based qualitatively observable variables, and IT MAKES SENSE.

If my sincere use of the term to express how I genuinely feel about the subject matter did somehow offend you, I'm sorry (for your being upset, not my honesty). Though, seriously, you can't blame me for that.


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You said that most people think Skyward Sword is better than Twilight Princess.

Unless you have some evidence to counteract ares' you have no argument.


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You said that most people think Skyward Sword is better than Twilight Princess.

Unless you have some evidence to counteract ares' you have no argument.


To which I replied...

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It's just what I gather. I don't hear many say otherwise, and I wouldn't myself.


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Fight me.


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Regardless of how polarizing it is, SS is objectively the superior game to TP.


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Regardless of how polarizing it is, SS is objectively the superior game to TP.


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