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quote: (post ) Originally posted by NemeBro
He survived the destruction of a universe.
No DBZ character can claim that.
He has moved planets like they're marbles and destroyed them physically.
No DBZ character can claim that.
Superman Prime fought with someone who wielded the power of the Big Bang and ultimately won.
No DBZ character can claim that.
He did survive. I agree with that.
What DBZ has tried to do that? Darkseid never moved a mountain, doesn't mean he can't do it.
He did fight against Monarch who temp koed him with a Nuke like blast.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
He did survive. I agree with that.
What DBZ has tried to do that? Darkseid never moved a mountain, doesn't mean he can't do it.
He did fight against Monarch who temp koed him with a Nuke like blast.
DBZ character lose their shit if a planet is going to explode.
Oct 20th, 2014 02:51 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Time Immemorial
DBZ character lose their shit if a planet is going to explode.
Because its their home planet.
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Because its their home planet.
Lol and the Z fighters on Namek?
Oct 20th, 2014 03:29 PM
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Superman Prime, or Superman Prime One-Million?
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Werewolf582
For one this is far more impressive
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And Android 18 broke Vegeta's arm with a kick. Vegeta had large planet durability then.
Striking feats > Lifting and pushing feats
IMHO
Those planetoids are each smaller than the city block my house resides in.
Even if you assume that the Z fighter's resistance to blunt force damage and ki damage are equal (You'd have to be ignoring quite a bit of evidence to make this assumption), then Superman Prime would still be much stronger by feats. Also much faster by feats.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by NemeBro
Those planetoids are each smaller than the city block my house resides in.
Even if you assume that the Z fighter's resistance to blunt force damage and ki damage are equal (You'd have to be ignoring quite a bit of evidence to make this assumption), then Superman Prime would still be much stronger by feats. Also much faster by feats.
Care to back that up?
Ki is technically bunt damage.
I already said supes won.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by NemeBro
Good.
No DBZ character has physically moved a planet, or anything close to it.
Striking feats > pushing and lifting feats.
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Care to back that up?
Ki is technically bunt damage.
I already said supes won.
For one thing, we can actually see Bills' size relative to the planets as a blur.
For another, later in the scene we see that tree is not, in fact, the size of a planet.
Well, no it isn't though, lol.
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Striking feats > pushing and lifting feats.
Based on?
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You'd have to provide evidence the planetoids are even close to the size of actual planets or moons before Nemebro would be obligated to point out that Bills is visible next to those planetoids, and some of them are in the foreground and still smaller than the floating island he was on, in order to debunk your claim.
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Lol and the Z fighters on Namek?
No on had durability 11x Earth except SSJ1 Goku and Frieza.
Air is also a great resource.
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Based on?
If you could bench 200 pounds that automatically means you can destroy those weights?
Have fun breaking your hand.
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If you could bench 200 pounds that automatically means you can destroy those weights?
Have fun breaking your hand.
Those weights are probably made of steel and it takes more than 200lbs of force to break 200lbs of steel. Your comparison is flawed.
Once you get into ranges where there's so much mass steel cannot support its own weight and would form into a sphere-ish shape under its own gravity, ala, say, the size of a planet, what then?
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by NemeBro
For one thing, we can actually see Bills' size relative to the planets as a blur.
For another, later in the scene we see that tree is not, in fact, the size of a planet.
Well, no it isn't though, lol.
We see a lot of comic characters next to planets and they aren't as small as they should be.
Some attacks are.
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Those weights are probably made of steel and it takes more than 200lbs of force to break 200lbs of steel. Your comparison is flawed.
Once you get into ranges where there's so much mass steel cannot support its own weight and would form into a sphere-ish shape under its own gravity, ala, say, the size of a planet, what then?
Therefore just because you can lift it doesn't mean you can destroy it. Not even a 5 pound plate.
Da Phuck?
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Therefore just because you can lift it doesn't mean you can destroy it. Not even a 5 pound plate.
Da Phuck?
Therefore, your example is terrible because not everything works the same way at every scale.
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Therefore, your example is terrible because not everything works the same way at every scale.
Textbooks.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Werewolf582
Textbooks.
Are a great example.
A single textbook has incredible tensile strength, and it is very hard to rip apart, despite being very light.
Now, if you have a textbook made of the same material, floating through space, but with a mass measurable in thousands of tons which has volume to match, someone strong enough to manipulate that book could easily pull apart its binding because the material simply doesn't have the tensile strength to support its own structure in the same way as a smaller version would.
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