Registered: Mar 2014
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Neph. Just edit this topic and change it to something else that actually belongs here, then remake it in the versus.
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Registered: Jul 2014
Location: Off learning Ground Realities
I've played the Consular story 4 times and it's by far my favorite, I don't need to read a respect thread full of Hyperbolas sentences to know what her feats are...
Personally I go with the Barsen'thor, since I'm kind of a fanboy of her. She has way more than hyperbole with her amazing TK feats and beating Vivicar and the First Son.
Registered: Jul 2014
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I don't know, all the quests in Swtor seem to indicate that you take your companion on your quests.
We know the Knight fought Darth Angral with Kira, we know that the Inquisitor fought Zash with Kem.... We have yet to find out if Vivicar and the First Son were killed with Qyzen/Nadia's aid, so I'm skeptical of using those feats.
On the other hand we know Revan faced Malak alone, Traya faced Surik alone, etc....
Besides, Choking Sion like a pussy is probably higher on my list than Barsen'Thor's TK feats.
I don't think her feats (is she canonically a woman?) are hyperbole (which I haven't seen in the respect thread anyways). I also don't get how is Traya winning easily, especially considering that the Barsen'thor has more impressive combat skill feats. Her TP is not going to give her the win because she doesn't use it that much in combat, and her TK doesn't seem superior to me.
Registered: Jul 2014
Location: Off learning Ground Realities
I don't know, but I always picture my characters when we talk about them and mine are all female.
And I know her feats aren't, but most of those threads (this one included) are full of quotes like "A powerful padawan" "Strong in the force" "Stronger at age 4 than I was at 15" which in my mind, are meaningless.
I find Barsen'thor a powerful Jedi, there is no doubt about that. Traya however is a master swordsmen, something the Consular has never been attributed with. Their force levels are similar, but Traya seems to be stronger at in combat techniques. She wields incredible TK, potent Dark Healing, Shatterpoint beyond that of anyone else we've seen.... I just think Barsen'thor III is outmatched here.
Qyzen got his ass kicked by Nalen Raloch (before he got Rajivari's training iirc), you really think he'd do much against Vivicar, who was a terrifyingly powerful Sith Lord drawing on the power of hundreds of Jedi Masters? And any aid Qyzen did give is greatly off set by the fact that the Consular was massively weakened by the Shielding technique plus had to fight through a capital ship to get to him. Likewise Nadia is merely a padawan, no match for the First Son. She didn't do anything in the cutscenes before or after the main fight.
Because... Sion is so badass with TK? Sorry but no dice with me. Blasting through a house sized blast door beats ragdolling a chump like Sion. Plus most of the Barsen'thor's TK feats were done in a weakened condition and early in her career.
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Last edited by Nephthys on Oct 12th, 2014 at 07:44 PM
Registered: Jul 2014
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And yet one would argue that Lord Vivicar's strength was sorcery, and being cut from his sources of power means the rituals he used cost him more than he gained.
I don't know why I'd even need to go into the fact that the First Son saved the Barsen'thor's life, Syo Bakarn fighting him in his mind was perhaps the only reason she survived that battle, seeing as Syo incapacitated his alter ego and wasted his energy healing the Consular...
She also effortlessly slaughtered 4 jedi with TK all in short succession, and was considered more powerful than Nihilus in TK despite his little starship feat until he got powerful enough with Drain...
They also have armies standing in between them and their opponents. I realise that Malak and Traya did as well, but I also realise that the strength of some of the end act bosses outstrip both.
Still can't get over him losing to Atton. I never will.
I want to say them taking turns was down to gameplay/modding, but then she takes the time to address them all. IDK.
Oct 12th, 2014 02:31 PM
