Meanwhile Kreia TK's three(four is you count cut-content) Jedi High council members, utilizes a variety of force powers against them(including force crush) brings people back to life on the fly despite not having used her healing powers "in some time" can levitate lightsabers and give them a will of their own And in cut-content, she stabs herself with a saber and survives.
Oh she beat down all of the Exile's padawans/apprentices and "tanked" their strikes.
Cut content doesn't add another Jedi Master. She still dies, iirc, either way. She has also never brought a single person back to life. And beating down novices doesn't put you above the Barsen'thor.
But he wasn't cut from the source of his power until after the Consular had defeated him. Are you really arguing he was weaker than she was?
That's speculation. She showed she was capable of resisting his telepathy, getting around his invisibility and overpowering him with TK. Just because Syo did heal her doesn't mean she need him to to have won the fight.
Lol, wut? Now you're getting into crazy town. She overpowered the Exile's poorly trained apprentices at the heart of Malachor only in cut content and saying she's better than Nihilus in TK is utter hilarity. Oh but it was before he got powerful? Well no shit.
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No, he was drawing on the most powerful Jedi Masters, when she shielded them he was cut off. Perhaps, but I don't believe she would have won without Syo at least fighting the first Son.
We all use that cut content constantly, and it's still impressive seeing as she showed the speed to dodge all of their blades. It doesn't matter if she was actually better or not, Nihilus and Sion refused to face her until they knew they could strip her of her force identity, they were obviously terrified of her if two of the most big-headed Sith in the galaxy wouldn't try touch her.
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Yeah, Sion has never really impressed me all that much.
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I think it's safe to say that Sion has died in combat more than anyone else in the mythos.
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I was only referencing feats, not accolades, which are hardly game changing and shouldn't be used as such. Accolades are just there for completeness, not as a substitute for feats (let's say they are 1/4 of the cake) . Being a master of lightsaber combat is way too generic anyways.
Any above average duellist could be labelled as such, and such hype isn't going to make a difference when facing other master duellists, even when they don't have accolades in that regard. For Dark Healing, I honestly fail to see what's so special about it. Shatterpoint has never been used in combat by Traya, and how useful it would be against powerful opponents is at least questionable.
He was drawing on hundreds of other Jedi Masters though, so that doesn't matter. And it's pure speculation that he was weakened by her shielding them.
Well as I said, she showed that she was equal to or superior to him in the cutscenes before and after the fight. Plus she had just fought through 3 Children to get to him.
Impressive, but she took them out 1 by 1 and as I said was on Malachor. Plus it's not as if they've got a plethora of feats. And she only dodged Brianna's blade in the video I'm watching.
Again, just because Nihilus did drain her doesn't mean he had to or that he and Sion couldn't have overpowered her without doing so. You're jumping to conclusions that they were terrified of her and weaker in TK.
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Wow! legitimate debating on KMC?!! This hasn't happened in a long time...
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Kreia did catch the Masters off guard tbf and the other stuff was in cut content/mods. Her smacking around Mira, Visas and Brianna with TK is only impressive insofar as those guys themselves are impressive. Which isn't that much. Barsen'thor also has advanced healing and has considerably more powerful feats of TK than her and superior combat feats and accolades for her skill.
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Shootingnova's respect threads seem a bit lacking to me.
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