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DarkSaint85
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Originally posted by carver9
Nope, not what I am saying. What i am saying is, no matter how much control Hulk had over his strength (he took a footstep, so no matter how much control someone has, if they can't walk unless they destroy a planet, then that defines how powerful a character is. His next solution besides walking was to tip toe around), it was so great that he was unable to do the things that Prime does on a every day basis.

Everything you've said about Prime takes effort. Hulk at this level putting any type of effort into anything physical would most likely kill everyone around him or on the planet.

I know you remember this part.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/809...32_009.jpg.html

The guy couldn't even run around, had to lift his ft back up before taking a step, so in order for him to move, he had to do this.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/809...32_012.jpg.html

I don't think you're grasping the concept of someone walking around (clearly walking and not putting effort into it) causing this type of destruction vs someone actually trying. These are normal footsteps.


Lol.

The scan you posted showed Amadeus and the others begging Hulk to control his powers, the implication being, if he lost control, he'd turn into the Hulk, the one that nearly sank the Eastern Seaboard with a step.

Therefore, it was the loss of control which made him nearly sink the Eastern Seaboard.

Control that Prime has.

With the control, he wouldn't sink it. Without it, he sinks it. Nothing to do with his strength level (after all, am sure you remember Gray Hulk destroying the asteroid twice the size of Earth - and he was a 'weaker' Hulk.

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Didn't Prime take on the Teen Titans , Doom Patrol, and the JSA All at the same time?


Scans?


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Hulk got sent at high speeds towards the asteroid didn't he?


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Scans?


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Scans?


I'll get the entire fight in a little bit.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...99697-RealV.jpg


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Later on, he tells Nightwing - I wasn't even trying last time:

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Later on, he tells Nightwing - I wasn't even trying last time:

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Lol.

The scan you posted showed Amadeus and the others begging Hulk to control his powers, the implication being, if he lost control, he'd turn into the Hulk, the one that nearly sank the Eastern Seaboard with a step.

Therefore, it was the loss of control which made him nearly sink the Eastern Seaboard.

Control that Prime has.

With the control, he wouldn't sink it. Without it, he sinks it. Nothing to do with his strength level (after all, am sure you remember Gray Hulk destroying the asteroid twice the size of Earth - and he was a 'weaker' Hulk.

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And right after that, he did control it and reverted back to World Breaker which shows us what? He has control of his power.

So this clash with Prime and Ion was Prime controlling his strength?

http://s219.photobucket.com/user/Su...evsion.jpg.html

Sp these punches and blitzes are Prime holding back?

http://s219.photobucket.com/user/Su...vsion6.jpg.html

I disagree. Prime was trying to kill Ion. Hulk would have destroyed everything in that vicinity if he was to let lose like that. You know I am speaking the truth. Why are you denying this?


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Lets compare the "Holding Back" feats since people want to keep arguing over them

Hulks can sink shit by stepping

Prime can kick the shit out of The Teen titans, JSA, and the Doom Patrol while holding back.

I think we all know which one is better.

Also

Primes best feats > WB hulk best feats.


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I'll get the entire fight in a little bit.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...99697-RealV.jpg


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He's a beast. You don't think WBH could beat that team?


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And right after that, he did control it and reverted back to World Breaker which shows us what? He has control of his power.

So this clash with Prime and Ion was Prime controlling his strength?

http://s219.photobucket.com/user/Su...evsion.jpg.html

Sp these punches and blitzes are Prime holding back?

http://s219.photobucket.com/user/Su...vsion6.jpg.html

I disagree. Prime was trying to kill Ion. Hulk would have destroyed everything in that vicinity if he was to let lose like that. You know I am speaking the truth. Why are you denying this?


Because...you're not using logic.

Your logic is, essentially, that nearly sinking the Eastern Seaboard is > pushing planets out of orbit casually, at superspeed. THAT is what you are arguing. And that is what we are all uniting against.


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He's a beast. You don't think WBH could beat that team?


No.


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Originally posted by Werewolf582
Lets compare the "Holding Back" feats since people want to keep arguing over them

Hulks can sink shit by stepping

Prime can kick the shit out of The Teen titans, JSA, and the Doom Patrol while holding back.

I think we all know which one is better.

Also

Primes best feats > WB hulk best feats.


He didn't beat that team though. He killed a lot of them but he didn't win the fight. Hulk would kill 90% of that team just by swinging his arm.


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No.


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I don't think he can punch his way out of the Phantom Zone in less time than it took Superboy (Conor) to even get back on his feet. He would've been stuck in there.


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He didn't beat that team though. He killed a lot of them but he didn't win the fight. Hulk would kill 90% of that team just by swinging his arm.


He held back and was kicking the shit out of them, if he would have given 6% of effort we would have destroyed them easily.

Also WB hulk best feat is destroying a planet with some help, Prime could probably do it on his own.

And I also don't think WB hulk would win against that team.


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I don't think he can punch his way out of the Phantom Zone in less time than it took Superboy (Conor) to even get back on his feet. He would've been stuck in there.


That's a great ft and all but that's not outside of something that Hulk can do. Recently while weakened, Hulk punched through an indestructible glass that was designed to send him to another dimension. One hit. Also, Red She Hulk has punched her way back through dimensions in a couple of panels and Hulk/Banner knew it was possible for a Hulk to do. Not taking away from Prime ft but Hulk has done similar.


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He held back and was kicking the shit out of them, if he would have given 6% of effort we would have destroyed them easily.

Also WB hulk best feat is destroying a planet with some help, Prime could probably do it on his own.

And I also don't think WB hulk would win against that team.


So Prime can clash with someone of equal power and destroy a planet and melt nearby Heralds? Do i have to post all of his clashes to prove you wrong?


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That's a great ft and all but that's not outside of something that Hulk can do. Recently while weakened punched through an indestructible glass that was designed to send him to another dimension. One hit. Also, Red She Hulk has punched her way back through dimensions in a couple of panels and Hulk/Banner knew it was possible for a Hulk to do. Not taking away from Prime ft but Hulk has done similar.

None of those dimensions are like Phantom Zone though.


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The N-Zone glass is not quite the same, as he wasn't there.

Neither is the Red She-Hulk showing applicable.

The Phantom Zone turns you intangible when trying to interact with the real world.

Has Hulk, whilst intangible, punched through something? That should tell you how crazy that feat was.


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