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Strength Vs Invulnerability

Who has the biggest gaps in how strong they are as opposed to how invulnerable? Invulnerable might NOT be the right word, but i think you guys'll get what i mean...
Either really strong with low invulnerability, OR the other way around.

The whole rip Doomsday apart scenario made me think.
Aside from him being Supes level strong yet ripped, you also have WW who is massively strong yet uses bracers/gets her arms broke.
Thor wears armor.

On the other end, Ben Grimm can take massive hits, but isnt considered by many to be elite strong. Plastic Man does have super strength, not massively do, but can survive just about anything. Same with vlassic Wolverine thanks to his HF...


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Perhaps you could include Deadpool as well given his immortality but that may be null considering it's an outside force.

Same with Mr Immortal I guess.

Was this not the sort of thing you were looking for?


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well, that brings up the question, is regeneration the same as invulnerability?


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well, that brings up the question, is regeneration the same as invulnerability?


Kind of a tricky thing I guess. What's your opinion on the subject?

It's a hard subject as they are invulnerable in the sense that they wont ever be killed but they still have the crappy durability in that sense.


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Kind of a tricky thing I guess. What's your opinion on the subject?

It's a hard subject as they are invulnerable in the sense that they wont ever be killed but they still have the crappy durability in that sense.


I'm sort of a one trick pony with the character Man-Thing, but to use him as an example

Potentially the best regeneration in comics, can reform from complete annihilation and is a self-contained eco system, but certainly is injured by even the weakest attacks (anything that could hurt a plant)

That's really all I mean. In a legit fight, Man-Thing is "invulnerable" to anyone who can't terraform the planet to eliminate all moisture... But in terms of defense, a mutant like Pyro would be able to destroy his body (as meaningless as that would be in the long run)

EDIT: my personal thought would be that regen is something different from invuln. Wolverine has invuln because of his adamantium, not because of his healing, etc.


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Butterball has no strength. But is completely 100% invulnerable.

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Ultra Boy can only use one power at a time, yet doesn't turn his bones into jelly every time he punches someone on Superboy's level.


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Good stuff. Thanks.


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Juggernaut.

Durability > Strength


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Wouldnt have thought of that. Makes sense though.

Thought of one. Brit.


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Originally posted by tsilamini
well, that brings up the question, is regeneration the same as invulnerability?

Had to think about this. I'd say yes.
The Hulk's invulnerability comes from his cells multiplying so fast. Any damage is healed instantly for the most part.
PAD covered this in the issue where Fixit fought Wolverine.


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Sunspot has class 50 strength but isn't invulnerable.

Cannonball has high invulnerability when he's blasting but pretty low strength (iirc 1 ton class... though by flying at something he can manage to hit fairly hard).


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Brit is prime example of invulnerability but no strength, same with Butterball.

Sunspot is probably the best example of someone being super-strong but not durable.


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Brit, for sure.


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Sunspot's a great example.

Guys like him and Ultra Boy make me wonder how they do things without killing or just injuring themselves.


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Luke Cage is the poster child for this...Originally his was only at a 2 ton lifting ability-lol


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I remember that.
He was durable enough to crack Doom's armor though. Good discrepancy there.


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Despero. The General. Stronger than the entire league but people like Batman and enchantress can blow his limbs off.


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Don't know why I keep saying Enchantress. Meant Huntress.


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