Personally I think Marco has a point. Anakin is overhyped. While is is above most of his opponents like Savage, Ventress etc, it's not by that large a margin.
Because Anakin's decision to try to summersault over a soresu master on an elevated surface is somehow related to his ability to defeat Ventress now?
Don't pretend that you don't know the circumstances of the duel; mainly, that in addition to Anakin being in a compromised emotional state, Obi Wan knew all of Anakin's moves and deliberately turned the duel into one optimal to his soresu style of combat. Even ignoring the fact that Obi Wan as of RotS is certainly nothing to sneeze at, given that his weaker self shit all over Ventress like she was a joke, Anakin's performance against Obi Wan in no manner suggests he couldn't hand Ventress his ass on a silver platter.
But hey, isn't it so interesting that you cleverly tried to change the subject from Anakin's asskicking of Dooku, you know his "peak" performance, because you obviously couldn't give anything to suggest that Ventress is on that level. All you've done is provide examples of duels from the early TCW that Anakin actually won. Anakin Skywalker bends Ventress over.
Last edited by Skybreaker on Oct 23rd, 2014 at 03:24 PM
Of course you do. Now if we switch the words "Anakin Skywalker" for let's say, "Darth Zannah" or "the Hero of Tython" and "Savage, Ventress, etc," with "Sarro Xaj, Bane, etc" or "Angral, Scourge, etc" you wouldn't even entertain the notion of circumstantial victories.
Last edited by FreshestSlice on Oct 24th, 2014 at 05:03 PM
I don't think getting kicked is a sign of weakness to physical attacks or kinetic force. This would imply that Vader, Anakin, Obi-Wan, Sidious, and even Darth Maul have a weakness to kinetic force. They've all been kicked, just like Dooku.
Who said anything about circumstantial victories? I said Anakin was above those two, so I don't see why he needs a circumstantial victory to beat them. And Zannah's victory over Bane and Sarro was circumstantial, obviously. Also I've never suggested that Angral and Scourge didn't approach the Hero at the time she fought them. I'm sure they did.
Anakin destroyed Dooku. Absolutely, and Dooku is superior to those two together. And not that long ago, you claimed Anakin was Obi-Wan level in all aspects.
You claimed HoT as of Act I was more powerful than Revan, who has shown to be leagues above these two. As for Zannah, you claimed that wasn't the case and that Zannah was as skilled as Bane in almost all aspects and that she could dominate almost the entire mythos.
Oct 22nd, 2014 10:06 PM
