Maul and Savage. Krayt's lightning could be problematic but he isn't killing both of them with it simultaneously. They're simply too formidable as a joint threat for him to realistically overcome.
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I'm not saying Krayt wins or anything. Just that that scene looks pretty stupid to me and can't be the proof of Maul's capability of resisting Sidious' lightning. Even if the scene were to be taken seriously, we all know that Sidious was toying with them so there is no reason to believe that he went all out with his lightning there.
Vitiate received a force energy off guarded. It was a momentary thing and Revan never held control over him with the force. Its not the same thing here.
Revan hurled Vitiate back while the latter was focusing on dominating the former's mind. Maul, on the other hand, pinned Sidious to a wall, and the latter was unable to get free, not to mention that he wasn't distracted. Huge difference. Good thing that this portion of the fight was removed.
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It's not "MY" site, it's a site I post on, therefore I don't pick up the baggage of what other people say.
Secondly, you could not list one speed feat for any of those characters that would allow them to keep up with or perceive Sidious. Anakin has seen sub-light ships moving in slow motion, and has speed feats like appearing to be in multiple places at once, yet Sidious was moving too fast for him to perceive properly. Likewise, Sidious has moved faster than Maul can see several times. To say Nihilus, Talzin or Vitiate can do any better is wishful thinking at best.
I didn't say anything about winning. I'm no expert on any of those characters and I don't pretend to be. I'm simply saying that Sidious can fight faster than any of them can perceive with a lightsaber, at least going by Legends Canon standards. You can call me crazy but I don't see what's so unreasonable about what I said.
__________________ “The galaxy must experience the pain of death and the rapture of rebirth as I have. I will bring chaos. It is time for war.”
Yes, but these people are vastly more powerful than Maul, especially Nihilus in my opinion. Besides, Sidious speedblitzing Anakin is a direct contradiction of the movies, considering that the latter wasn't there during Palpatine's fight against Mace.
So how do we differentiate between his EU showings and how he fared against Talzin in TCW? There's no way ROTS Sidious is beating a prepped Vitiate AND Talzin, with Nihilus there as well it's just overkill.
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So what has power got to do with speed, exactly? I wasn't disputing their power, I was disputing their ability to perceive Sidious in motion.
I'm honestly done with the "but it didn't happen in the movies" "it's different in New Canon" BS people bring into Legends debates. In the RotS novel, which is canon to some degree, Sidious moves faster than Anakin can see. It's a different depiction of the event from the movie but it's still a depiction nonetheless. And there are other examples of Sidious moving too fast for characters to see, i.e, Fisto, Kolar, Tiin, Windu, Maul...
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