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Robtard
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So if Loki had one of the IGs, why did he suck so much unwashed ass in Avengers?

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No one has really tapped into or know how to fully tap into the gems so far. Thanos may be the first to tap into the gems fully.
Everyone else doing experiments or fuqing around with the gems have only maybe tapped into a small portion of their power.

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So if Loki had one of the IGs, why did he suck so much unwashed ass in Avengers?

Loki was an awful choice of a villain to bring the Avengers together but the gem is what allowed him to brainwash people, right?

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Yes, he'd touch someone's skin with the staff (powered by the gem) and they'd become his thralls.

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So if Loki had one of the IGs, why did he suck so much unwashed ass in Avengers?

Because the staff wasn't originally intended to be an Infinity Stone would be my guess.

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Loki was an awful choice of a villain to bring the Avengers together but the gem is what allowed him to brainwash people, right?

And just who would've been a better choice? Loki brought Thor to Earth, Dr. Banner and Iron Man to SHIELD and Cap back in action seamlessly.

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So if Loki had one of the IGs, why did he suck so much unwashed ass in Avengers?

Maybe it's one of those cases where Loki didn't tape into the gems powers properly. This happens a lot in the comics with the gems. Baron Strucker said it at the end of Winter Soldier that the people who had the staff didn't know what kind of power they had in their possession.

It seems like the mind gem can alter or give certain humans powers as Miracles. They tested a bunch of humans, who Strucker noted died, and only the twins survived. People are guessing the two could be inhumans mindcontrolled by Strucker, but I think that they're going to be another set of super humans (mutants/miracles). The way they're leaning it opens up a future story line where the gem(s) could unlock the populations hidden X gene and create mutants if Marvel gets the rights back for X-Men.

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And just who would've been a better choice? Loki brought Thor to Earth, Dr. Banner and Iron Man to SHIELD and Cap back in action seamlessly.

None except Loki. He's the only charismatic and memorable villain to pull this off. It also works because he was the one to do it in the comics, and this satisfied fans as well.

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So they're actually going with "miracles" to explain away SW and QS's powers since they can't use "mutant". ****ing lame covered in lamesauce.

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I hear they are going to be retconned to "Inhumans"

Which will also come into play in the comics, so they can wipe out the term mutants in general and more closely resemble the Cinematic Universe.

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So they're actually going with "miracles" to explain away SW and QS's powers since they can't use "mutant". ****ing lame covered in lamesauce.

calm your t!ts, rob.

yeah, it's kinda lame, but they have no choice.

what would you suggest instead of "miracles"?

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So they're actually going with "miracles" to explain away SW and QS's powers since they can't use "mutant". ****ing lame covered in lamesauce.

Yes, it makes sense since Strucker viewed it as a miracle these two survived after a bunch of others died after experiments with the staff.

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None except Loki. He's the only charismatic and memorable villain to pull this off. It also works because he was the one to do it in the comics, and this satisfied fans as well.

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calm your t!ts, rob.

yeah, it's kinda lame, but they have no choice.

what would you suggest instead of "miracles"?

I shall not calm them one bit, mouth!

There are always choices.

Words that don't sound as lame as "miracles" and are not the word "mutant":

Deviations
Anomalies
Subjects
Abnormals
Exceptions
Prototypes
Uniques (not an actual word, bit it can work here)

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I shall not calm them one bit, mouth!

There are always choices.

Words that don't sound as lame as "miracles" and are not the word "mutant":

Deviations
Anomalies
Subjects
Abnormals
Exceptions
Prototypes
Uniques (not an actual word, bit it can work here)

Yes, but none of that would have sounded as good when Strucker delivered his lines.

"It's not a world of spies anymore, not even a world of heroes. This is the age of miracles, doctor. There is nothing more horrifying than a miracle!" - Strucker

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It's lame; you know it. Mouth knows it. Even Marvel knows it.

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It's lame; you know it. Mouth knows it. Even Marvel knows it.

I kinda see your point but at least they kept it close to the word mutants. I doubt people are going to be running around saying kill the miracles! That would just sound weird. We'll have to see if they use another term in it's place later on. But for now, it worked for that spoiler clip.

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Could have just made them Inhumans. Seen as the Inhumans basically will be the Mutants of the MCU.

Oct 31st, 2014 12:56 AM

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I am so happy with Marvel right now.

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Loki's scepter having the mind gem is pretty stupid. I mean, why would Thanos entrust something so important to an underling? But minor complaint really.

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Loki's scepter having the mind gem is pretty stupid. I mean, why would Thanos entrust something so important to an underling? But minor complaint really.

Maybe because he thought he could get it back whenever he wanted.

Mind gem is powerful, but it's no reality gem, especially in the hands of someone that doesn't know how to use it.

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