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carthage
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That would be a bad idea just so we can see all of the TOR characters/wanked EU (Nihilus, Vitiate, Bane, Revan,) and their associated characters top the list via mob voting.

No thank you.


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Pretty much my thoughts as well. At the end of the day, it would just be popular opinion which is pretty much irrelevant.

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Which is sad because the other posters i,e not the TOR/Bane/EU cult have at least a general sense of what characters out or might belong in terms of feats/skill


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Lesse, non force users:

Enhanced top tier (those that are superhuman, just via non-force means)- Grievous, Durge, Yuuzhan Vong Warmansters

Top tier all-arounders- Kir Kanos, Pre Vizla, Jango Fett

Top tier in one area/near top all-arounder- Jarael, Cad Bane, Jahan Cross

Exceptionally skilled combatant- Rohlan Dyre, Jariah Syn, Rex

High skilled combatant- Cody, Panakan, most commandos, above-average clone troopers, normal Mandalorians etc.

Skilled combatant- Fully trained Clone Troopers and other skilled soldiers

Unskilled trained combatant- Random Stormtroopers (Rebellion era), B-1 Battledroid

Untrained combatant- Random bandits with weapons, etc.


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What makes Jango any better than Cad Bane?


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What makes Jango any better than Cad Bane?
Physical stats, accuracy, combat feats, equipment

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SoSayqv1TVI

Cad isn't really any lesser than Jango in any of the categories you listed.


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Hm, forgot about the HtH trick he pulled there against Obi-wan...


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Jango is Dooku's hand. Bane is Palpatine's.


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But the basic set-up of the tiers of non-force users sounds good?

I wonder if I should spin it off into it's own thread...


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Maybe we should make multiple tier ranking lists. For example; we could make a tier list for dueling abilities, a list for the force using abilities, the most knowledgeable force users, etc. My reasoning behind this is that it's hard to combine raw power, dueling skill, feats, and implied power and get a clear result. we could still keep a fairly short list of the tiers when they're all combined, but we should break them down into categories.


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Maybe we should make multiple tier ranking lists. For example; we could make a tier list for dueling abilities, a list for the force using abilities, the most knowledgeable force users, etc. My reasoning behind this is that it's hard to combine raw power, dueling skill, feats, and implied power and get a clear result. we could still keep a fairly short list of the tiers when they're all combined, but we should break them down into categories.



On the flipside, sometimes the whole is different than the sum of the parts. Some duelists are only good, but also skilled at including quick force attacks that themselves aren't overwhelming, and combine well for good effect.

While other people have good force and good dueling, but are pretty darn poor at using both at the same time.


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For the record, Luke kind of has that 'strong as he needs to be' thing going on. If some writer thinks it'd be good drama to have him struggle with an encounter he should curbstomp, then so be it.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.p...gAsTheyNeedToBe

With this trope in mind, it's perfectly legit for Luke to have his own tier.

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The comic book subforum had a ranking/tier system, this should still be undertaken so we can avoid needless reporting of posters to Badabing for laughable claims of making "spite threads". Please no fanboys though this has the potential to be a useful exercise


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The comic book subforum had a ranking/tier system, this should still be undertaken so we can avoid needless reporting of posters to Badabing for laughable claims of making "spite threads". Please no fanboys though this has the potential to be a useful exercise
Having a tier 10-1 system would be pretty solid IMO. Luke being tier 10, Bane being tier 1, for example. And we can have different tiers for different aspects of combat, i.e Dueling tiers, Force tiers, all out tiers.

So Kenobi could be a tier 8 duelist but tier 7 all out because of his lack of Force power, for example. We had something akin to this on CV that might have worked out alright if it had been maintained. I kind of want to re-establish it.


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The Tier system should work if we can make out who to place where based on their strengths, you hit the nail on the head with the example of Kenobi. If we could work it out, we'd have no more issues with "spite threads" or "mismatches". I don't know I liked the idea of a tier system based on an groupings of force/dueling skill as opposed to different ones.


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I don't know I liked the idea of a tier system based on an groupings of force/dueling skill as opposed to different ones.
Neither do I but a lot of people look at it that way sometimes. I think looking at a characters dueling skill and Force separately is more reliable than meshing the two together, too many variables.


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It could work for either granted, dueling might be the most difficult due to lack of feats for various EU eras.


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Nice to see that some people haven't given up hope on making a good teir ranking system.


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