he came out on the losing end both times he faced mace, got bfr'd almost the instant mace decided he didnt want a prolonged fight, and got his hands cut off and killed by kenobi. It seems like Dooku's hopless thought was pretty spot on in that regard. heck his next thought is that grievous fights with too much hate instead of dispassion which was his exact mistake against mace. He knew he should have side steped the hole he cut but his desire to kill drove him into it. -
"Grievous-onetime courageous commander of sentient troops-realized what mace had done and wanted to sidestep, where general grievous-current commander of droids and other war machines-wanted nothing more than to impale mace with lunging thrusts of the paired blade."
"Slipping into the gap made by maces saber, grievous' s left talon lost magnetic purchase on the roof, and the general faltered."
Another pretty spot on judgement of one of his apprentices wouldnt u say?
U also missed the context of it being part of his inner monologue where hed been describing his distaste for grievious in other aspects such as collecting defeated jedi sabers, using 4 blades, and lack of elegance and gallantry.
These next quotes better reflect dooku's feelings on grievous' s skill.
"Grievous was a force to be reckoned with, to be sure,"
"Grievous was fast, and so were his ig 100-series sparring partners"
"Dooku had taught grievous well, and grievous had taught his elite well."
To think thats comparable to the scene with savage, where there's no context but dooku training him in sabers and calling his technique sloppy is laughable.
Yeah, the first time he was crushed by telekinesis, and the other time he had his foot stuck to the floor, and Mace proceeded to cut the floor beneath said foot. What does this have to do with lightsaber skill exactly?
Oh please, if Mace was as superior as you're failing to prove, he would have ended the fight by merit of skill, not by exploiting an environmental disadvantage.
Not only has Grievous gotten the better on Kenobi on a couple of occasions other than the one in ROTS, but Kenobi has a Form advantage against Grievous - which is backed up by both Mace telling Kenobi this, and Mace doing worse against Grievous than Kenobi despite being a better duelist than Kenobi. And you're accusing me of taking shit out of context.
Not really. And yes, Grievous does tend to zone in entirely on his opponent when fighting him. However, this has only ever hindered him while he was already at a disadvantage... you know, having his feet magnetized to the ground? If his feet weren't magnetized to the ground, Mace would have nothing environmental to exploit against Grievous.
No, not really, because if Grievous really was hopeless he wouldn't be doing shit like stalemating Windu while his feet were stuck to the floor, defeating Ventress, fighting evenly with Kenobi despite a Form disadvantage, ect.
Dooku's feelings on Grievous' skill level are irrelevant in comparison to Grievous' feats, which include challenging Dooku himself.
Of course it's comparable, because if Savage really was as shit as Dooku proclaimed him to be he wouldn't have the feats he has. Dooku is highly critical anyway, so what he deems hopeless can be incredible from someone elses view.
Btw, you forgot to rebut everything I said on the page before like you said you would. Am I to take that as a concession?
__________________ “The galaxy must experience the pain of death and the rapture of rebirth as I have. I will bring chaos. It is time for war.”
this is just for the last part. I intend to respond to those but i do almost all of my posting from my phone and i takes long as hell. Id like to respond to all the points u made at once but i need a chunk of time to do it. The post u just responded to took me almost an hour. Sorry for my sluggishness and i appreciate ur patience.
Also i just want to apologize for coming in and talking shit about peoples logic, it was kind of douchy and out of nowhere. Ive been here for years and never do stuff like that so my bad.
You don't really need to apologize, we all act like douchebags while debating at some point, myself included. But people will disagree with you if you call their logic shitty.
__________________ “The galaxy must experience the pain of death and the rapture of rebirth as I have. I will bring chaos. It is time for war.”
Maul sits back and drinks a martini while Savage kills Darth Bane
__________________ "Happiness is a lie. Life is horror. The light is always dying all across the universe. The last star will flicker out someday, when it does, all that remains is shadow. And I will be its king!"'-Amahl Farouk
__________________ "Happiness is a lie. Life is horror. The light is always dying all across the universe. The last star will flicker out someday, when it does, all that remains is shadow. And I will be its king!"'-Amahl Farouk
Nov 20th, 2014 12:13 PM
