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Anakin V.S Vitiate.
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Sinious
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Which is why he whooped Bariss in the Jedi Temple, I suppose.

Mortis is special.



Lowballing.

Mortis was special because it was the most concentrated force nexus. But what Skywalker DID there was way beyond anything Vitiate is capable of anywhere.

So clearly any Nexus will give Skywalker greater connection to the Force than anyone else.

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It's not my fault that the only other time he's been on a nexus he underperformed. Which suggests your theory is wrong. no expression

Pretty sure Mortis is more than just a super nexus. As Obi-Wan said, it IS the Force.


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It's not my fault that the only other time he's been on a nexus he underperformed. Which suggests your theory is wrong. no expression

Pretty sure Mortis is more than just a super nexus. As Obi-Wan said, it IS the Force.


Besides, it doesn't affect every force user the same way it affects Anakin.

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It's not my fault that the only other time he's been on a nexus he underperformed. Which suggests your theory is wrong. no expression


Everyone has low end feats. That's why it's called Lowballing.

And it's not like he lost or anything. In the end he owned her with his Tk.



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Pretty sure Mortis is more than just a super nexus. As Obi-Wan said, it IS the Force.



In other words it's just a big Force Nexus.


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Besides, it doesn't affect every force user the same way it affects Anakin.



Because he obviously gets a larger amp on Force Nexus than other Jedi/Sith.

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Because he obviously gets a larger amp on Force Nexus than other Jedi/Sith.


Is potential more important than actualized power on a nexus? If not, then Sidious on Mortis should stomp the Ones by your logic.

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Is potential more important than actualized power on a nexus?



No, being The Chosen One is more important when on a Nexus.


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If not, then Sidious on Mortis should stomp the Ones by your logic.


Perhaps in your dreams. But that's not my logic at all.

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No, being The Chosen One is more important when on a Nexus.

Perhaps in your dreams. But that's not my logic at all.


Why? Is there like an encrypted code on Anakin's midi-chlorians that unleashes his full potential when he is on a nexus? Is that why Obi-wan and Ahsoka had no visible increase in their powers?

Mortis is not a regular nexus. The entire Mortis trilogy focuses on the uniqueness of the planet and how it singles Anakin out. Being the chosen one doesn't help Anakin if he is on a normal nexus and fighting a stronger force user.

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Being the chosen one doesn't help Anakin if he is on a normal nexus and fighting a stronger force user.



And yet it did help him to overpower the most powerful darksider in the Universe along with his equally powerful sister, whilst on the Ultimate Force Nexus.

Because that is all Mortis was. An Ultimate Nexus. Obi-Wan and Anakin feel how strong the Force is there as soon as they arrive. Obi-Wan knows immediately that is something Skywalker can take advantage of better than anyone else. The Father also confirms no other Jedi or Sith could have accomplished what Skywalker DID there.

ROTS Skywalker is a beast on neutral ground. Put him on a Powerful enough Nexus and Vitiate better run. Any Sith should.

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He also block ligthning bolts in this serie.. That's totaly non canon because we never teach him.
As grievous say to obiwan in RotS :
"You fool, doku trained me to your jedi arts."
That's mean he didn't fight him before... So all the figth with Grievous are totally Non canon...
I only take as canon Savage, Cad Bane, droïd commando.. The fight with sidious and The brothers... Wich is a medium canon because it include teh totaly ****ed reboot of the mandalorian.. Because the mandalore duchess is supposed to be the girl in the Jedi appretince novel, in the tom 6, but she is not because it's not the same planet, mandalore.. Ho shit I didn't notice that mandalorian was bad warrior let's correct that thing !!! That's by accident than mandalore fall in neutrla territory (he didn't not even knew how mandalore looks like so **** the scenarist...) It's canon as spider man many canon who contradict them, but there different series with differents version of the story...
I don't care about the childy philosophy from the serie... Because I know characters personality in SW is more complex.

RotS ANakin is better but that's not presuit vader.

And his mental defense are just too weak... He is too intrepid, Vitiate is a specialist of mental domination he can break his mental defense faster than a bracker in marseille can open ... You see?

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Revanchiste: The great Uniter (of canon)

Declares the only actual Canon EU other than Rebels non-canon? You know he means business.


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I never say all of that non canon... That entire canon... I refered as part of a production canon or not.
I know than main character psychology is way more complex as show in the 2008 TWC.
I know their is alternates storylines. But There is a difference between alternate storyline and ****ep up storyline....

I've spend hour and hour to calculte each power of SW new weapons :
http://forums.spacebattles.com/thre...lations.297091/
I have redetailed Revan life light saber history immagine how can far could SW go in technology.

Because what? Ho we must believe in that total commercial bullshitium of "official" SW canon? We are the fan here. The universe live in our mind, we echange togethers to make it more clear !!!!!

Yhea I mean buisness !!! And I a real knowledge carrier about SW technology !!!

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Sinious
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Originally posted by DARTH POWER
And yet it did help him to overpower the most powerful darksider in the Universe along with his equally powerful sister, whilst on the Ultimate Force Nexus.

Because that is all Mortis was. An Ultimate Nexus. Obi-Wan and Anakin feel how strong the Force is there as soon as they arrive. Obi-Wan knows immediately that is something Skywalker can take advantage of better than anyone else. The Father also confirms no other Jedi or Sith could have accomplished what Skywalker DID there.



Exactly, even more powerful force users wouldn't be able to accomplish what he did there which is not how normal nexus' work.

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ROTS Skywalker is a beast on neutral ground. Put him on a Powerful enough Nexus and Vitiate better run. Any Sith should.


Does that include Darth Sidious? Do you think Anakin would defeat Sidious in a powerful nexus?

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Does that include Darth Sidious? Do you think Anakin would defeat Sidious in a powerful nexus?



Would have to be a pretty powerful Nexus, but yeah he clearly could beat Sidious or Yoda or possibly even both together on a powerful enough Nexus.

Overpowering the Son and Daughter together is far more impressive than overpowering Sidious and Yoda combined.

Remember this guy was conceived by midichlorians so he's basically made up of them, so on a Nexus he's going to feel a much stronger connection to the Force than other more powerful Jedi/Sith would on the same Nexus.

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Was Anakin basically a "One"??


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I'm still racking my brains trying to fully understand what the Ones represent through the Force and how Anakin fits into them.

From what I can tell, they are either physical manifestations of the Force itself, or just extremely powerful Force Users whose individual power can alter the state of the universe unless it's kept in check.

Anakin is a being who the Force conceived in order to conserve balance, which he did. Because of his status as the Chosen One, I'm guessing he was able to command the Son and Daughter simply because the Force allowed it? F*ck if I know, he obviously didn't hold a candle to either of them in power, so it must have been because of his prophetic status that he could take control of them...


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It was an advantage.. A tactical advantage on the son so...

Yhea remember old RPG where you are the super young elected one with totaly no skill, and then there a magic sealed sword, their is a superior warrior heavly trained (47 years of training) a veteran who cannot take control of this sword and you you can with no training... Or there is a temple with mega horror in wich his prohibeted even to very experienced veteran, mage etc... And you you are allowed to enter and the monster didn't attack you...

Pretty much the same thing here.

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Would have to be a pretty powerful Nexus, but yeah he clearly could beat Sidious or Yoda or possibly even both together on a powerful enough Nexus.

Overpowering the Son and Daughter together is far more impressive than overpowering Sidious and Yoda combined.

Remember this guy was conceived by midichlorians so he's basically made up of them, so on a Nexus he's going to feel a much stronger connection to the Force than other more powerful Jedi/Sith would on the same Nexus.


Nah. This actually sums it up pretty well:

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Anakin is a being who the Force conceived in order to conserve balance, which he did. Because of his status as the Chosen One, I'm guessing he was able to command the Son and Daughter simply because the Force allowed it? F*ck if I know, he obviously didn't hold a candle to either of them in power, so it must have been because of his prophetic status that he could take control of them...

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Would have to be a pretty powerful Nexus, but yeah he clearly could beat Sidious or Yoda or possibly even both together on a powerful enough Nexus.

Overpowering the Son and Daughter together is far more impressive than overpowering Sidious and Yoda combined.

Remember this guy was conceived by midichlorians so he's basically made up of them, so on a Nexus he's going to feel a much stronger connection to the Force than other more powerful Jedi/Sith would on the same Nexus.


Anakin overpowering the Son and Daughter was a one-off thing. He couldn't repeat it when he fought against the Son afterwards. I think it was only possible in that one location on Mortis, which gave the audience the briefest of glimpses into what a full potential Anakin was capable of.

Since this topic isn't about full-potential Anakin though, Vitiate should take this pretty solidly.

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