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Re: Re: Re: Re: L.T vs.both versions of Beyonder
The LT's prime resposibility is to the Prime Multiverse that houses the 616 Reality.
The LT may supposedly exist in all so called multiverses,
but go ahead and find a story where the LT steps into another multiverse,
in fact,
try and find the LT in any other reality outside the Prime multiverse. (sans the D of M)
Heck, the LT can't even attack a character/object that originates from another multiverse.
The MU got bigger in your opinion,
but Eternity/Infinity and the primary hierarchal Concepts stayed exactly the same.
Eternity/Infinity is still "multiversal." (there is NO conscious universe outside This one and only multiverse)
The "true power of the Beyonder?" ... as in "post" retcon? That's a different character.
Classic Beyonder is an ocean while the LT and all of significant Marvel combined is a drop of water.
Btw. The BeyonderS, from the Beyond Realm, uhm, even after B was retconned,
their realm also makes All of Eternity seem like a speck in comparison,
and the LT was included withIN Eternity.
It just goes to show that even later writers classified the Beyond Realm as the big Wow of Marvel.
Actually you have to speak for yourself, cause I know exactly what's going on Outside the Prime Multiverse:
Nothing! (concerning cosmic scale powers connected to other specific multiverseS)
Aside from the Beyond Realm, there is nothing of consequence.
Your improvision into LT's mind is lovely, althugh completely unsupported.
Again, Marvel and DC both played a part in Adventures of the X-Men.
The Brothers are the same,
the difference is in the LT and Spectre who were portrayed as above them.
I'm not sure you're following me.
You're not follwoing me.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: L.T vs.both versions of Beyonder
So you disregard LT having the Megaverses in his hand?
It got bigger by comics. It was a Multiverse, now it is an Omniverse with Megaverses and Multiverses within.
It is the same character.
Compared to the old Marvel Multiverse system, that changed.
Obviously you don't know anything. And I would rather put my money on the Marvel writers than on your "knowledge".
Ok please show me the Cover of the x-Men #12 with DC's logo on it. Go ahead, I will wait. Till then you got nothing. Seriously. Marvel has Brothers, but they are differen't and Marvel exclusive. The original belong to both companies. If you show me a comic with both companies on the cover that rectons them, I will side with you.
I don't want to follow you because I see the wrong path you are at.
And here, wrong colors, shoulderplates where there were none.
Since those two Brothers are Marvel exclusive it is rather likely that LT copied what he experienced.
Close but still not close enough.
I will reconsider your opinion, as wrong as it is right now, once Disney buys DC Comics and makes it part of Marvel. Till then DC is obviously an independent company and not a Megaverse in the Marvel Omniverse.
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Last edited by Prof. T.C McAbe on Dec 15th, 2014 at 01:46 AM
o ... k ... Anyway, I could go back and forth but after years of debating experience I've learned
arguing against opinions/theories will get me nowhere.
So ... I'll simply post the truth with proof and move on. (I do this for the onlookers)
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In Adventures of the X-Men:
Originally, the story involved the DC and Marvel entirety,
and Mike Carlin, who was currently an Executive Editor at DC, approved the project, added his ideas and allowed his name to be highlighted.
I used to debate against this, but I later accepted the evidence I investigated for myself,
the Spectre being alluded to being involved, but in the most obvious way:
Interestingly enough,
I used to think the LT held the ALPHA & OMEGA on the other hand,
but in fact, it was always the BrotherS that ARE the Beginning & the End:
"Alpha & Omega revolve on the Wheel of Destiny ...
a Wheel spun by his mighty Hand .. A Hand soon opening
to allow two Brothers to assume their pre-destined roles as architects of new realities."
So the LT undoubtably, imo,
held the power/embodiment/beginning-end ... of Two MegaverseS in one hand.
Which at the time published, (97') was all of Marvel and DC in his hand.
(at-least until 2007 when we officially understood via handbooks Marvel had its own private omniverse)
2005 Handbooks have Marvel and DC as Megaverses, inside a greater Omniverse.
2006 Handbooks really doesn't change that particularly.
2007 Handbooks finally changes that completely.
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This truth above is supported:
This page over at Marvuanapp hasn't been updated since mid 2004,
but at-least until then, this is the Bio of the Retcon BrotherS:
btw. The guy who created Marvunapp is the person who came up with the term "Megaverse"
which Marvel comics and even DC applies to their worlds.
After 2007, Marvel has been referencing a sole Omniverse
with endless representations of 616, so that detail's changed,
but the rest, is right on point with me.
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So for the record, not imo, but in the factual harmony certified in my prior posts, both DC and Marvel were in cahoots regarding this "Adventures of the X-Men" story.
I never stated that this is relevant Now, I did clearly add, originally or initially, cause that's the truth.
So yea, the LT, the Marvel Brothers have nothing to do with DC Now
and perhaps shortly after the freakin story "Adv. of the X-Men" ... But ...
there is No doubt, that when the comic was published, that was the plot,
and the LT and Spectre (not by name but obviously)
were depicted as being above all that is Marvel and DC. (Brothers)
Meh, in DC vs Marvel ... the LT and Spectre nearly obliterated both Brothers
when they warped the shit out of them via force.
Again, luckily, Access helped save the "superior" Brothers.
Which means, they were always not supreme,
even if that was the implication yet never realized.
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Lol @Mr. Master trying to convince people that HIS OPINION is the truth. They are copies, as you said, of the brothers, nothing more and slightly different as you can see in my scans. As for the name, there are also Brothers in FF 8.... You can't be serious.
Now the most important part, DC has no official part in this comic.
Post the cover, so we can see DC logo on it, next to marvel.
I am long enough here to see the wishful thinking of some comic megalomaniac for what it is wishful thinking.
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Marvel owns the rights of DC and can make DC a Megaverse in the Marvel Omniverse. Which is just utter BS.
Just take a look at the cover, which will never be posted here. It lacks DCs logo. Not single writer, artist can speak for the whole DC company while working for Marvel. An assumption like this is just fanboyish, wishful thinking. But to each his own I guess?
To end this discussion and all lies accompanied with it, here is the cover of the
"non canon" cartoon adaption Adventures of the X-Men #12
I can't see a DC logo, as hard as I try. (please log in to view the image)
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Last edited by Prof. T.C McAbe on Dec 15th, 2014 at 01:16 PM
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I agree, that's bs, who said this exactly? Oh right, you're still not following me.
You're not, cause I never ever claimed that DC was a megaverse within Marvel.
... Now I'm convinced you're not paying attention either.
Mike Carlin has not only been a Writer/Artist and Editor for DC comics,
but he was also the Executive Editor of DCduring Adventures of the X-Men and then Vice President.
He was also the Creative Director at DC.
Mike was also an Editor in Marvel prior to becoming one of DC's major bosses.
Do you understand what it means to be the "Executive Editor" of a magazine? Christ!
Anywho,
Mike Carlin was not only the most respected person in DC at the time until he was replaced by Dan Didio,
but he even appeared On Panel in DC as the True Supreme Being!
This comic is not part of DC, it doesn't matter who worked on it, it is a Marvel Company book not a Crossover nor a collaboration. FACT. Get over it and don't lie or twist it to suit your believes.
It doesn't mean sh!t who worked where and what positions they held at what point or where their daily toilet was. The Book is from Marvel and not from Marvel AND DC, as you can see by the cover and by the lack of DCs branding on it. POINT. DO you understand this simple fact?
as you can read is not a reliable source, as fans can participate there and it has no meaning on those boards. Bios are also regarded as BS here.
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Marvel exclusive, published without DC. IOW differen't brothers, copies but not the real deal.
EDIT: You would have to accept both, that DC is just a Megaverse in the Marvel Omniverse and that the Brothers are the same or none, you can't have both, else it is a retarded doublestandard.
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Not imo, but perhaps.
... Now I'm convinced you're not paying attention either. 
(main writer of the Marvel/DC Brothers bio) 
