Proof of this? And that his statement was intended to be objective instead of subjective?
Quote?
Then it's what a lot of us debaters like to call an inconsistency, and Filoni and Lucas both evidently realized this as well considering they acknowledged that Grievous losing to Gungans is out of the norm, and would be portraying him as less impressive than usual.
Having said that, as far as creative decisions go, the idea of Grievous - someone who has built a career out of wholesale slaughtering Jedi by the hundred - losing to Gungans, is hilariously retarded.
No, an opinion isn't the same as creator intentions. It isn't a canonical fact that Ventress is a better duelist than Grievous. The only fact of the matter is that she was able to beat him on a Dark Side nexus which would amplified her beyond her normal abilities. Also, in other sources Grievous has been noted as being superior to all of Dooku's other apprentices/proteges, has beaten Ventress, and has had better dueling and physical feats than her. So the idea that all of that can be changed just because Filoni or Lucas want it to be so is just ignorant on their part and anyone who would subscribe to that statement. Luckily, it's just Filoni's opinion, so it doesn't even matter.
__________________ “The galaxy must experience the pain of death and the rapture of rebirth as I have. I will bring chaos. It is time for war.”
Lmfao, you're completely incapable of countering my argument so you continue to cling to a subjective opinion like it's fact. Nice debating DP, good job
Basically everything you just said is refuted by the fact that it is just an opinion, which is basically irrelevant unless it's deemed official.
__________________ “The galaxy must experience the pain of death and the rapture of rebirth as I have. I will bring chaos. It is time for war.”
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Mine which is backed up by evidence. But hey, it's not my fault you can't think for yourself
No, I need a quote for you to try and back up your claim that his opinion was meant as fact.
I could say the same about your ability to interpret source material, understand characters, or actually debate with some coherence instead of dodging certain points you can't counter and spouting nonsense.
Admitting that it was just an opinion has just undermined your entire argument - concession accepted bro, thanks for coming.
I'm pretty sure there's another post of mine in another thread you need to get to replying to bro, unless you conceded to that too? Holy shit, you'll need to open up your own concession stand if this keeps up.
__________________ “The galaxy must experience the pain of death and the rapture of rebirth as I have. I will bring chaos. It is time for war.”
That quote kinda trashes GG. The comment about him killing jedi because of their "fear of those swirling blades" makes jedi just seem like mooks who lose their nerve.
No I know, I just don't understand how he could have such a low opinion of Grievous. Jedi only die to him because him twirling his blades scares them, wtf is that rofl
Actually he meant his situation of being a non-force sensitive more than ''swirling blade'' thing, he is not lowballing him imo, just that he thinks GG is overrated (what I understand from interview) and he thinks that GG has no chance to beat top duelists like Ventress, which is fine imho.
'' it's just me, but he doesn't have the Force. He can't wield it. I don't see how he can hope to be as proficient as a Jedi or a Sith could be fighting with a lightsaber, ''
Since, if Grievous as a non-force sensitive, can be a challange to top duelists, then why not Boba Fett or Jango Fett, Pre Vizsla etc. Without precog, it is really hard to duel with force sensitives.
__________________ ''You are no warrior, Maul thought. You know nothing of the dark side.'' ★_Darth Maul Respect Thread_★
Last edited by Marco1907 on Nov 20th, 2014 at 02:18 PM
Because their eyes can deceive them, when he swings those Sabers around so fast, it could seem to the Jedi like they have no chance. Hence the line "Your eyes can deceive you, don't trust them." (Kenobi to Luke SW:ANH).
Besides that's how Dooku has trained Grievous to fight Jedi, through surprise, fear and intimidation. That's how he's taught him to defeat the Jedi in LOE and in the OCW.
Last edited by Darth Thor on Nov 20th, 2014 at 03:58 PM
Because there's no point. I've given my points and evidences which you just ignore in favour of your Love for Grievous. So I've responded to some shorter posts by people who might be just a little open minded in favour of your long posts which just waste my time with you describing your love for Grievous and how you will never give up on him no matter what Filoni, Lucas or anyone else in charge of SW Canon thinks.
Last edited by Darth Thor on Nov 20th, 2014 at 04:35 PM
I've no problem with using Legends feats, but only if does not contradict with Canon.
For example, Grievous contradicts like hell with Canon, in this circumstance, I will choose Canon over Legends. Or Anakin's overhyped strength in Legends, which is contradicted with Canon.
This is why I am choosing to ignore those feats, not because they are non-canon, because their EU feats contradict with Canon feats. Otherwise I wouldn't make Darth Krayt respect thread at the first place since that character is not even exist in Canon.
__________________ ''You are no warrior, Maul thought. You know nothing of the dark side.'' ★_Darth Maul Respect Thread_★
Last edited by Marco1907 on Nov 20th, 2014 at 04:47 PM
Marco, I read through your Krayt respect thread. The final quote "Still, Humans make up the bulk of the Sith. The natural chaos of their emotions is capable of producing the warping passion necessary to create a Sith Lord. Many of the most powerful, terrifying, and notorious Sith Lords through history have been Human or near-Human, including Exar Kun, [Darth Malak], Darth Bane, Darth Sidious, Darth Vader, and Darth Krayt" was found by me, not Sasukedc. Secondly, you cropped Darth Malak's name out of the quote. Why?
__________________ "There is only Revan. Only he can shape this galaxy as it is meant to be shaped."
Even in Legends Lucas's word was always final. Or were you not aware of the G, T and C canon hierarchy?
But Lucas's words actually mean less now that he's sold Lucasfilm. And Filoni's words actually mean more now that he's still creating new Canon for Lucasfilm.
And btw TCW was part of Legends continuity. Or do you not get where the 2 Universes get divided?
All that being said, your over-attachment to Legends is unhealthy considering it has been officially declared Non-Canon. You need to deal with that instead of complaining to people who bring that up.
I mean just look at this thread, the OP mentioned "ROTS" Grievous, yet you want to ignore Lucas's comments on him (Lucas made ROTS in case you didn't realize). The OP mentioned 2 versions of characters from TCW, yet you want to ignore TCW and the comments from the Director of TCW. Then you want to insist that it's the OCW Grievous in his super uberness that's the only relevant version of Grievous here, and that anyone who doesn't agree with that is simply wrong.
You need to wake up and deal with s*** brah.
Last edited by Darth Thor on Nov 20th, 2014 at 05:17 PM
Then, and nowadays, the EU is referred to as a parallel universe. G, T, C ect, canon is now obsolete, replaced by Canon and Legends.
OCW Grievous isn't a thing by itself - the battle of Hypori is referenced in Insider 86, Labyrinth of Evil, Star Wars: General Grievous and other sourcebooks/stories. And I've been bringing up feats for Grievous outside of the cartoon. You need to wrap your head around that - and, you need to wrap your head around the fact that TCW portrays characters differently from the EU, and that this is an EU board filled with people who are here to debate the EU. And when we do debate the EU, you lack the capacity to back up your own points due to a lack of knowledge, and resort to what can easily be viewed on-screen and spelled out to you through creator opinions.
Btw bro, you should probably stop trying to open new debates with me if it's "not worth it". It just makes it look like you can't refute my arguments and will only reply to select quotes. Poor form indeed.
__________________ “The galaxy must experience the pain of death and the rapture of rebirth as I have. I will bring chaos. It is time for war.”
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