I just remembered an old anime by the name of "Now and Then, Here and There".
It starts off innocent enough, but through-out the whole anime, there's child trafficking, training them into soldiers, abuse, verbal and physical towards women and children.
There's a character that gets raped once and almost gets raped again, the first rapist was a guy she didn't know and was given to for free, she was a virgin btw, she gets pregnant from him and thinks about killing herself for pretty much the rest of the series. The flower petals blowing away as it happens is... eh... ooh baby that hit me... HARD, it sucked, it really friggen sucked.
I decided to make a more serious business list. Gonna spoiler what I consider to be late-show spoilers, so something like the hero being cucked by their wife ****ing their dog at the end will be spoilered, but the protagonist stubbing his toe three episodes in won't.
[SPOILER - highlight to read]: The ending of Cowboy Bebop [SPOILER - highlight to read]: Sayaka becoming a witch and Kyoko sacrificing herself to put her down as well as [SPOILER - highlight to read]: Homura's backstory in Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. [SPOILER - highlight to read]: Nanachi and her friend going on a long elevator ride in Made in Abyss [SPOILER - highlight to read]: The entire ending sequence in Diebuster
Kiritsugu's crushing of Kayneth and [SPOILER - highlight to read]: Saber final scene in Fate/zero [SPOILER - highlight to read]: Miki Makimura and crew's grisly dismemberment in the second to last episode of Devilman: CRYBABY
Shichika's fight with [SPOILER - highlight to read]: Nanami in Katanagatari
Honestly, this scene really epitomizes why I wasn't huge on Madoka Magica. It was a beautiful and compelling scene standalone, [SPOILER - highlight to read]: but that worked to its disadvantage, because it felt completely unwarranted. It was trying to invoke an emotional response for a relationship with no worthwhile development.
This one was better, but I'd seen that sort of thing many times before, so it also wasn't that hard hitting for me.
Probably the most powerful moment of the entire series, for me.
Good pick. Although the fact that you didn't pick a certain other scene from that series makes me feel like it failed in its objective.
It has been about five+ years since I last watched Katanagatari. Are you referring to [SPOILER - highlight to read]: Togame being blown the **** out and revealing that she fully intended to murder Shichika in her dying confession? Or Shichika proceeding to murder dozens of basically innocent people in an effort to commit suicide by cop (which honestly should have been my real pick, but I actually forgot it happened when I wrote up this quick list)? Or something else entirely?
The Kiritsugu scene was great. I still remember my boyfriend's quiet simmering anger as he grew to hate the character during.
As far as [SPOILER - highlight to read]: Kyoko and Sayaka, I obviously can't agree. I might give the series another watch sometime specifically to analyze their scenes prior, but I felt that the build-up and development of their formerly antagonistic relationship, while never budding into a friendship, was sufficient to show that [SPOILER - highlight to read]: Kyoko had taken a personal stake into Sayaka's well-being, both trying to bond with her over the shared revelation that they were, essentially, undead monsters, and telling her own backstory to keep Sayaka from making similar mistakes as a magical girl Kyoko has which, obviously, failed.
As far as the second Madoka one, if you'd already seen other scenes like that fair enough but I obviously can not relate lol.
Yeah, the finale in general. As far as a shocking "moment," though, I'd say the first half would fit better.
It's been a long time for me too, so the details are fuzzy, but I vividly remember feeling somewhat awkward during that scene, because I could see what it was trying to do and just wasn't feeling it at all. [SPOILER - highlight to read]: There are two reasons for this. One, because the show was really short in general, and there was really no time to get too attached to any of the characters individually before they met their respective tragic ends. Two, while I do think an antagonistic relationship has the potential to work for that kind of scene (enough so that I understand what they were going for), in the case of Sayaka and Kyoko? I mean, they met only a couple of days prior to their deaths, their relationship during that time was mostly toxic, with only one or two civil interactions, and very little in the way of common ground/mutual understanding. I completely agree that Kyoko was just being tsundere, and really did mean well for Sayaka, but she was by no means invested enough in her personally for me to buy that extremely dramatic "sacrifice for my friend." Especially since Sayaka legitimately seemed to hate her.
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While that will probably be said about any popular work, I do think it is. That's not to say that it was bad; it's a neat twist on a classic genre, and it's very aesthetically pleasing. You'd probably like it. However, to me it felt like it was trying to come off as much more deep than it actually was. I think a lot of the hype surrounding it can be attributed to the shock value from when it first came out, which is something that's lost on new watchers, because no one goes into Madoka blind at this point.
[SPOILER - highlight to read]: Magia is a goddamn legendary ED track, though. The first time it played after Episode 3 was chilling.
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End of Ashita No Joe, when he died just before the decision.
Or did he?
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Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
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Aug 26th, 2018 10:09 PM
Thanks Scribble!
