You act like nobody makes mistakes or says wrong things. Jon isn't perfect and MOST of the things he says makes sense, because he works close to the industry. He certainly knows more than we do, that's for sure.
Agree to disagree that WB needs a Fiege. WB is going to make a crap load of money soon once the DCCU comes out. They've been strong on the directing side, too.
Fox is making awesome stuff without a Fiege type. And they've made a lot of money, with no end in sight. Deadpool, X-Men Apoc, Gambit, etc...
Yeah but it doesn't matter what he knows because he treats his opinions as facts so it's difficult to differentiate between what he Knows and what he Thinks. And he's just been wrong too many times on the big issues to use his arguments Imo.
Lauren Shuler Donner is Fox's Feige and she's doing a Fantastic job. Whose doing that for WB? Choosing Snyder to do both BvS and JL after already doing MOS is a big mistake IMO. He did a decent job for MOS, but he hasn't proven himself to give him THAT much responsibility. So whose making these decisions is what I want to know?
Not really comparable seen as he's the CEO of the whole company, so is way too busy to play the Feige for the DCCU.
Last edited by Darth Thor on Apr 14th, 2015 at 09:58 PM
Yeah but "needing" is different to "wanting". The only thing Marvel had missing was their Massive Icon. And they "wanted" to be able to use him, so they had everything.
Plus people who know their movie industry facts (like Campea is supposed to) could tell you Marvel already had an invested interest in how well Sony's Spider-Man movies were doing, because Marvel profits from Movie Merchandise for Spider-Man unlike with X-Men & FF. So there was always a decent chance of marvel helping sony with Spider-Man in some fashion. In fact the Oscorp building almost made it into Avengers 1 but wasn't done only due to time constraints.
Anyway Campea's problem isn't his predictions and arguments. It's how arrogant he is regarding his opinions, making them out to be facts, which just makes him lose a lot of credibility when he's wrong on major stuff like that.
Last edited by Darth Thor on Apr 14th, 2015 at 11:59 PM
Not really. John has stated countless times that most of what he says is just opinion. Pretty much everything he states beforehand has an opinion disclaimer.
Who is WB'S Kevin Feige? Supposedly the guy who's been helping out at Fox will help oversea DCCU. That and Kevin T. And Zack Snyder who has big plans for the DCCU. They really just need to make good choices.
That's because several years ago they hired a Marvel insider - Mark Millar - to be a consultant on their films. It's no coincidence the Marvel films by Fox has been better since he's been aboard (which means post-X-Men Origins: Wolverine.)
DC trying to do the same thing with Geoff Johns unfortunately got them a bust, with Green Lantern. And Christopher Nolan seems to have moved on after Man Of Steel.
Marvel studios has their insider group of permanent consultants from the comics - Brian Bendis, Joe Quesada, Alan Fine. DC needs to do the same thing.
"I'm not smart so much as I am not dumb." - Harlan Ellison
I guess it's just personal opinion but I massively disagree.
Out of all the major comic book properties, there are two which I'd say shouldn't be 'dark and gritty' at all, those being Superman and the Fantastic Four.
I mean the core of the FF is that this incredible thing happens which leads to amazing adventures. Making it dark and (as they've said in interviews) more realistic is completely against the core tenants of the property. Sure bad things can happen (ie look at Hickman's run, stuff gets bad at times) but at it's core it's optimistic and light.
Everything promoted and said about the new movie seems to directly contradict these core ideas, and also, the sheer insanity that should be an FF franchise. I mean of all the things to make 'realistic' and serious, it's really not one of them.
Again though, personal taste and your mileage may vary.
Geoff Johns was not to blame for that failure. Supposedly, he had very little to do with Green Lantern's outcome. That's funny that you bring up Mark Millar, because supposedly Geoff Johns is working closer to the TV show and film side, which is why he's only writing one book now, which is the JLA.
Warner's shows have generally been hits with a lot more to come.