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well, since the others are in and i had some unexpected free time, i guess i'll post here.
ima go with carver (collective gasp from forum.... lol)
i think he raised some good points, but i should also add a small caveat. one scot def had a point, i just don't think it was a really defensible point. to the direct question--do i feel sentry had MORE power to put into the fight? yes, i think he could have unleashed more than he did--in fact, he seemed about ready to do so. but....that would seem to indicate that one scot was right leo!! wtf??
well, here's why i think he's wrong--bob unleashed as much power as he was safely able to unleash while remaining in character. had he gone full-planet destroyer, that would have been ooc imo and would likely have led to the void.
i equate it to this--do we say thor holds back every single time he does NOT go into warrior madness?
no, we don't--or we shouldn't.... more apropo, do we say every time hulk doesn't go full on wbh do we say HE was holding back...? again, no, (though there IS some irony here... )
using that standard, i don't think bob was holding back at all.
i also don't buy the mental illness angle--he was fighting his own battle, and he won that battle when he left the room and joined the battle. carver was right on about the illness ALWAYS being present to some degree. i think in this battle though he finally overcame it, as fully as he ever has at least, so i don't see it having been a weakness at all here, as evinced by his willing to lose the last shards of control he was holding on to. beyond that, there is the simple question about just how much more he had to give, and would even it have been enough? i also don't think we need to look at any sources outside the arc directly being spoken of to understand the full scope of bob's mental state as relates to THIS arc.
convoluted answer for what was a tricky question. both were right in part imo, but based on the intent of the story (as i see it) sentry was going as all out as he could while remaining 'sentry the hero' (as opposed to the void, or a planet-destroyer or perhaps sentry the suicide victim), so i agree more with carver in this case.
just my 2 cents because it was asked. good job gents.
Stop derailing this thread (not directed at you Leo). Good battle One Angry. By the way, I didn't lie about anything, well, not purposely. I had a great deal of scans together but I wasn't organized at all since I was kind of rushed into the battlezone. So I made a mistake ONCE and said something happened beforehand. Glad Scot corrected that part which is why I kept it pushing. I wish i had more time to get everything organized but I didn't. Thanks everyone for taking the time. All of the judges that were chosen are great and respectable posters (i respect Leo almost more than anyone on KMC so even if he voted against me, i would have thumbed up his post. Love the guy (yes homo). With that said One Angry did an amazing job...thanks for the debate. Thank you to all and Enz, everyone here knows that you think Sentry held back against everyone...he is your fave. No need to put your two cents in this thread. Thingy, lol, just stop.
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Last edited by carver9 on Dec 6th, 2014 at 12:39 AM
I think both got their point across well enough, though I think Angry Scot suffered from the mere description of the topic. It is the wording of the BZ.
Had he been arguing that Sentry was not his all the power at his disposal, then I think most people would already have agreed.
Bada has been sick, I doubt its anything other then real life takes presence. I am appalled with Leo and Supermex though for their absolute horrible behavior, they didn't even know what was going on. DS was the only one who had any idea.
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