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Dooku and Mace vs Maul Brothers and Ventress
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Trocity
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Dooku and Mace vs Maul Brothers and Ventress

3v2 on neutral ground.

Who wins?


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Team 1 imo


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An interesting dynamic in this fight I think could be Windu and Tyranus's refinement and experience relative to their opponents. Looking beyond how their skills and power compare from a non-specific set of circumstances, it kinda seems like Tyranus and Windu would be the ones controlling the fight here.


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Angelalex242
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Team 1, solidly.

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Darth Thor
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Dooku's already shown he can take Opress and Ventress together in a relatively confined area. Obviously Mace would take Maul.

So yeah, team 1 solidly.

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Yea, probably team 1, though the situation is complex enough team 2 may get the odd win.


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Lol.

Team 2 wins. Put Ventress or Maul against Mace by himself, and then pair the other with Savage against Dooku and team 2 has effectively won the match. Dooku will go down whilst Ventress or Maul have an extremely close fight with Mace that won't be ending sooner than Dooku falls to the duo. IIRC there was a source from somewhere stating Dooku would have lost against Ventress and Savage in the end but I'm not sure where it's from or if it truly exists. In any case, it's the truth.


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On the contrary the Official Site makes it clear that Dooku's Sith powers gave him the edge over his former apprentices. Another part of the site states they were no match for him.

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One quote said he was powerful enough to survive, and then another said he was too powerful for them and then it became a three way fight. To me this implies that Dooku was powerful enough to stave them off and escape, but not enough to defeat them both. And that he survived mainly because Savage turned on Ventress.


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Marco1907
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Dooku dies. Windu wins.


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Assuming it's dooku vs. opress and ventress and Mace vs. Maul, team 1 wins. Dooku is capable of defeating the duo, and Mace takes down maul. Whilst maul probably has the power advantage, mace has the advantage in terms of saber feats and accolades. maul's power advantage wont be enough to ragdoll Mace, so it would come down to a contest of blades.


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Team 1 3 ragingpzycho.. That'z good force mace. Thiz iz not Jedi dooku zo ---> force power uze directly az offenziv tool = Ventrezz weaknezzez....

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Darth Thor
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One quote said he was powerful enough to survive, and then another said he was too powerful for them and then it became a three way fight. To me this implies that Dooku was powerful enough to stave them off and escape, but not enough to defeat them both. And that he survived mainly because Savage turned on Ventress.



From the Official Site:

Opress's gallery:

Dooku's Sith mastery barely gave him the edge over his former apprentices. Dooku repeatedly blasted Savage with Force lightning, and attack against which the warrior had no defense. Beaten and wounded, Savage's fury overshadwoed his loyalty to Ventress, and he lashed out against her as well. Savage then battered his way to the frigate's hangar, past Ob-Wan and Anakin. The weary warrior had no interest in conquest, just escape.

Ventress's gallery:

But Dooku proved too strong for even their combined efforts -- and Savage finally snapped under the strain of his abusive training, turning his fury on both Dooku and Ventress.

Dooku's bio:

This was not to be, as the Sith Lord was too strong with the dark side and survived the attack.


So pretty much every source confirm that before Opress went into his ultra rage, Dooku was going to beat them both.

After his Ultra Rage there is doubt over how the fight would end, but certainly nothing concrete that Dooku was screwed or anything.

And bear in mind Dooku didn't have much room to spin around, give ground e.t.c., and wasn't even expecting this fight at all! He thought Ventress was dead and Savage his loyal servant.


So yeah I'd give Dooku at least a stalemate against these 2 under any conditions. But under more regular conditions I'd give him the win almost every time.

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Revanchiste
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And we have Mace = Ventrezz flee far way from the battle field, and juzt let zavage get killed, becauz zhe hate him.

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Dooku and Mace every single time.

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Lord Stark
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Dooku and Mace for an easy win. Maul cannot hope to defeat any of these guys by himself and either can handle Ventress and Savage.


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Dooku and Mace.

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Marco1907
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I am certain Dooku would die either way. Maul & Savage murderstomps, or stronger version of Savage from S5 & Asajj can beat him.


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McP
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Nope. S6 Dooku with his Ataru moves mixed with his Makashi mastery would trash S5 Opress and Ventress.

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Nope. S6 Dooku with his Ataru moves mixed with his Makashi mastery would trash S5 Opress and Ventress.


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