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BeyonderGod
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Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
You've ignored GOD SUPERMAN with his sword!

I sense FEAR in you!

Michael
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All solo.


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I mean I know the Pr Beyonder was stated as millions of times stronger than the combined marvel universe, but correct me if I'm wrong but LT is outside the MU as a single character looking in and when shown in continuity it is just an Mbody avatar?

The only way for an abstract to exercise its power is through an "m-body" and they contain the full power thereof,
so that point is settled.
And since there's no evidence that suggests "m-bodies" are formed in fractionalized levels of power,
there's no reason to entertain that unsupported theory imo.

That aside, the LT is part of the prime Multiverse and was created with it likewise in the same fires.
... and Beyonder was millions of times more powerful than the infinite prime multiverse combined. (LT included)

Which is equivalent to everything significant nowadays.


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The only way for an abstract to exercise its power is through an "m-body" and they contain the full power thereof,
so that point is settled.
And since there's no evidence that suggests "m-bodies" are formed in fractionalized levels of power,
there's no reason to entertain that unsupported theory imo.

That aside, the LT is part of the prime Multiverse and was created with it likewise in the same fires.
... and Beyonder was millions of times more powerful than the infinite prime multiverse combined. (LT included)

Which is equivalent to everything significant nowadays.

You sure are intelligent!


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TOAA
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Mandrakk
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Lucifer
Michael
TOAA
Presence
CA Superman
Mandrakk
Mxy
etc.

Lucifer-Loses
Michael-Loses
TOAA-Stalemate
Presence-Stalemate
CA Superman-Loses
Mandrakk-Loses
Mxy-Loses

........Michael+Lucifer=LT


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Thanos.


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Thanos.

Thanos?.....
I dont think so.....


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Thanos?.....
I dont think so.....
I get you have trouble thinking but that is your problem.


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Beyonder wanted the doom thing to happen anyways.

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I get you have trouble thinking but that is your problem.

Work on those manners.


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Ultimately the Beyonder was below the TOAA as the TOAA represents the owners/stockholders of Marvel.

The Beyonder was the representation of Jim Shooter in comic form, and he was under restrictions set forth by his superiors. The point is that the Beyonder regardless of what he stated was never a tier 1 entity within Marvel, and as such was at the most a tier 2 marvel entity.


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Ultimately the Beyonder was below the TOAA as the TOAA represents the owners/stockholders of Marvel.

The Beyonder was the representation of Jim Shooter in comic form, and he was under restrictions set forth by his superiors. The point is that the Beyonder regardless of what he stated was never a tier 1 entity within Marvel, and as such was at the most a tier 2 marvel entity.

So Beyonder was still a writer?.....that makes him equal to TOAA.


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I get you have trouble thinking but that is your problem.

Lol you mad or nah?


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Really it should only be something like TOAA as the supreme unknowable being, or something like the Kirby Avatar representation of TOAA where they basically know that it is all a comic. For that reason maybe WF Mxy could also pull it off... maybe.

Even Squirrel Girl I don't think is up to the task. Definitely not Thanos, not even close.

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Really it should only be something like TOAA as the supreme unknowable being, or something like the Kirby Avatar representation of TOAA where they basically know that it is all a comic. For that reason maybe WF Mxy could also pull it off... maybe.

Even Squirrel Girl I don't think is up to the task. Definitely not Thanos, not even close.

But someone here said Beyonder Represents Jim Shooter enough to put him definitely Equal to TOAA.


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Originally posted by Board Walker
Ultimately the Beyonder was below the TOAA as the TOAA represents the owners/stockholders of Marvel.

The Beyonder was the representation of Jim Shooter in comic form, and he was under restrictions set forth by his superiors. The point is that the Beyonder regardless of what he stated was never a tier 1 entity within Marvel, and as such was at the most a tier 2 marvel entity.


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He was even below concepts like Supermans Story, iow CA Superman and the eternal struggle against Evil, Mandrakk. Also below the Brothers in the crossover, which represented the companies, with all workers. Beyonder at that time was just a representation of one human, who is just an small and "insignificant" part of a larger company and even bigger stories.

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Lucifer-Loses
Michael-Loses
TOAA-Stalemate
Presence-Stalemate
CA Superman-Loses
Mandrakk-Loses
Mxy-Loses

........Michael+Lucifer=LT


Lucifer beats him as Does Michael
TOAA = Marvel Company, laughs
Presence = laughs too
CA Superman adapts and wins.
Mandrakk eats him
WF Mxy erases him with a flick of his finger.
Also Each Brother can beat him.
Omniversal LT too.


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Lucifer beats him as Does Michael
TOAA = Marvel Company, laughs
Presence = laughs too
CA Superman adapts and wins.
Mandrakk eats him
WF Mxy erases him with a flick of his finger.
Also Each Brother can beat him.
Omniversal LT too.

Lucifer doesnt beat him like michael doesnt.....
TOAA=Beyonder=Writers
Presence=Beyonder=Stalemate
CA Superman wont abapt to beyonders omni level powers
Mandrakk gets eaten you mean
WF Mxy lol Omnipotence>>>>>>5th Dimensional Imps
Brothers arent that powerful they nigh-omnipotent
LT is weak compared so Beyonder is Omniverse+


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Lucifer doesnt beat him like michael doesnt.....
TOAA=Beyonder=Writers
Presence=Beyonder=Stalemate
CA Superman wont abapt to beyonders omni level powers
Mandrakk gets eaten you mean
WF Mxy lol Omnipotence>>>>>>5th Dimensional Imps
Brothers arent that powerful they nigh-omnipotent
LT is weak compared so Beyonder is Omniverse+


I wonder whose sock you are. Hmm


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I wonder whose sock you are. Hmm

What?


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