The Hulk has been hurt by magic in the past, but there were times that he's shrugged it off. It depends on how strong he is when being struck. Since there were new rules put in place for the Hulk, and at what level he begins at, he would be able to shrug off Billy's lightning strikes. Billy fights up close, because he doesn't have eye beams, and other long range attacks like Superman, Gladiator, or other Krytonian clones. In the long run Marvel gets busted up, and if he is unable to take out an average Hulk that begins at herald level strength, he gets busted.
People have to pay attention to the new forum rules surrounding the Hulk. He does not begin at Official Handbook levels, or World Breaker levels, but somewhere in between, which would be at herald (top tier) strength levels, and everything that comes along with those levels. Durability, increased speed, faster healing, greater energy absorption/impact resistances.
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marvel should win but only if he fights smart. speed and energy via magic lightning should be enough to take hulk out. there is precedence for lightning working more than once in the past and marvel's lightning has been shown to be very powerful in some instances. he's strong enough to do definite damage and is durable enough to take a heavy beating if he needs it but lightning and speed should be enough to get him the wins. i'd call it a split.
marvel's level also tends to vary more than superman's but he is still pretty damn close. i'd give supes a majority, marvel a split and hulk a majority over ww--all in the classic versions of the dc characters.
the dcnu marvel may not get a majority, but i've STILL not seen enough to definitively state his level. it's a good fight for sure.
Leo, Not too sure that the lightning is going to do any lasting damage on the Hulk. Thor is a magical being, which has been stated on more than one occasion. Kismet for example thought that Thor would be a perfect mate if not for him having enchantments placed on him. How long would it take for Doc Green to discover that Marvel turns into Billy after shouting Shazam?
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I think what Leo was trying to say was that the Hulk is a being that does not have a static level. So, it's impossible to truly say who would win. It would really depend on how angry the Hulk is, and if Marvel fought smart; As in taking the fight to the Hulk fast and furious before he really became too much for him to handle. I could be wrong, but that's essentially what I got from his post.
Yeah, but that's not magical lightning in that scan. CM's lightning is magical and has brought Superman himself to his knees.
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lol thanks for translating. jbl's reading comp issues are extremely well documented.
but, not sure what you mean by THOR is a magical being--you sound like you're implying marvel isn't....? his lightning is also magical, so....not sure what you were getting at there.
anyway, we've seen a couple times lightning can impact hulk, though i agree not ALWAYS. still, i think it would be effective enough when combined with marvel's other powers to give him a split. using a magic-charged fist in combo with his speed could also be very effective.
and marvel only turns back IF the lightning strikes HIM, not if he directs it at an opponent. it's a fight i'd love to see though.
No he was not. He comes and try to hide his motive by trying to please both sides, but sways toward superman, captain marvel and other DC characters that have matched supes. Notice how he gives marvel the fighting smart thing, the win if? the 50/50 thing, then the i dont know good fight thing. Hulk has fought faster people than marvel and withstood all kinds of magical energy, He left that info out for some reason, guess why? He dont even mention what hulk could do to win. That itself shows his motives.
Hulk has fought people faster than Marvel? Ok. Name them. CM has combat speed that is on par with Superman himself. I know of no one in Marvel that has combat speed on Clark's level. Before you say "Surfer does," no he doesn't. Travel speed yes but reflexes? Hell no. If he has Superman-level reflexes then I want to see scans of him demonstrating that before I believe it.
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Thor's lightning is magical though, because he is able to hit magical beings with it and affect them profoundly. Superman and the Hulk have a lot in common, because they both are powered by solar energy. Gamma waves/rays are transmitted by stars unless I'm mistaken? But, then there is a point when their similarities split off. The Hulk is a mutated human Superman isn't, and he (The Hulk) mutates over a period of time to overcome many obstacles. We see this when he is in a highly toxic environment that he can not breathe in, and suddenly mutates or evolves to be able to live in that environment. Or, to being able to actually breathe under water, and in outer space. He rode on top of the stone ship from Sakaar back to Earth. Is there a reason why you would believe that the lightning in the scan above is not magical? Thor sent that burst of lightning his way.
Yes I know that Cap Marvel is a magical being. I was just saying that his magical lightning may not be able to do more than Thor's magical lightning in the past, but it would really depend on the Hulk's strength level. his tolerance goes up as his strength does up. Thor is a good indicator, that he may be able to shrug off Marvel's blasts, because there isn't really any hard proof to prove that Captain Marvel's magic lightning is more powerful than Thor's. Other than that, I fully agree with you, because Captain Marvel is pretty powerful. IMO he would have to get in and finish it as quickly as possible, or the Hulk's strength will eclipse his own, and make winning far more difficult.
I don't know man. I'd prefer to take his word for it though, because I don't know his true intentions brother.
I didn't know that was Thor's lightning. My mistake.
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Yeah I know, my bad. I didn't have the rest of the scan, but yep he's fighting Thor in that battle. This really all depends on the Hulk's excitement level, and captain Marvel using Solomon's wisdom to go in strong and relentless before the Hulk's strength gets to a point that he would be too weak to win. Lobo for example can take Captain Marvel's hits, and return his own. I wouldn't say that Lobo was a mega brick. Extremely powerful, but he's not on the Hulk, General Eiling, or Doomsday's level of power.
It wasn't a surprise, he was just one shot. Hulks the one who rushed Thors back and ate a lightning bolt to the face for his efforts.
Thor can produce so much energy that the fading residual lightning on his unconciouss body knocked hulk out anyway, so its not like he cant no him at will.
He didn't hit Hulk in the face though. The lightning Bolt hit him in the back. Doesn't matter anyways, don't think anything like that will happen again.
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his lightning is also magical, so....not sure what you were getting at there.
