I thought my post was reasonable. I recognize the realities and based on his showings and feats only put Vitiate on Sidious' level, not above him or even necessarily on par with him. I also recognize the ridiculous hype Bioware has attempted with him and I'm open to future developments. I don't think Vitiate will ever actually be Legend-style One levels of silliness, I just think his backstory should have suggested similar levels. This isn't the case though.
I thought it was as well. Vitiate supposedly has the power of thousands of Sith and an entire planet at his disposal. He should be far more powerful than any Jedi or Sith. However, his actual displays place him on an even level with the higher tiers.
If you are going to listen to reason for the most part, read gideons shit. If you want a treasure trove of biased stupidity, s66 is your guy.
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Ant, I like that the only quote you didn't put in that little respect thread of yours was that the dread masters are literally nothing without each other, and that they are basically one collective person. You act like individually they're all top tier, but it's simply not true.
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Not to mention 300 years of draining the shit out of Revan. And yeah, the power of 8000 Sith Lords should make him insanely beyond anyone else. Eight ****ing thousand. It's absurd.
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I call it like i see it. Sugar coating is for pussies.
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Everybody won't be treated all the same.
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Ah, I thrive off comments like these. The double-standards are so blunt I can get high off of it.
Your Exile respect thread on her combat abilities failed to mention she got whooped by Nyriss.
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The fact that you would say Vitiate is more powerful than Yoda is as stupid as using a fallible in-universe source who states Vitiate is greater than the combined might of the dread masters, whose best feats are their telepathic abilities. Not to mention that their individual power is hard to evaluate, especially in terms of combat; obviously as Cart pointed out, they're not so impressive in terms of combat. Sidious proved that even a group of some of the jedis' best are nothing to him. Not to mention he has shown he can effortlessly ragdoll other extremely powerful force user (even two at a time), whom are capable of ragdolling other powerful force users. Even Dooku can be easily killed by Sidious from a distance of light years. Sorry, I don't find Vitiate's quote all that impressive compared to what Sidious has shown to be capable of doing. Sidious still has that quote that calls him a dark side nexus powerful enough to rip apart the fabric of space/time, that particular quote itself is greater than any quote Vitiate has in regards to force power, and it's not even an exaggerated/hyperbolic quote, as Sidious has shown that he has the power to do so (and with a mere thougth, at that). That's not even bringing up the quote that said Palpatine's force storm threatened to consume "all of space" (Comics Companion). That's not including tons of superior quotes Sidious has to his name, period.
Seriously, Vitiate more powerful than Yoda? Lmao
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On a dark side nexus, after visiting Natheema. You subscribe to the worthless notion that unlike every other Jedi in history, Meetra totally wasn't wounded. I don't. That's an interpretation of canon material, one your beloved god thinks is perfectly fine.
On the other hand you're ignoring a blatantly stated canon fact, I fail to see how they're different.
As for Emperor, what you do not get is that he continued to increase in power with passage of time and also continued to hone his talents in the dark side further. He is officially noted to have explored the most sinister and uncharted depths of the dark side. Therefore, it is not far-fetched to assume that Emperor could perform Nathema event single-handedly after a spending centuries to improve his abilities in sorcery along with continuous growth in power. Emperor did single-handedly corrupt the entire atmosphere of a gigantic planet (i.e. Dromund Kaas) at a certain point after the Nathema event, as an example.
By the way, Force Storm (Wormhole) power can be learned. Jedi Order banned its practice. In addition, It is possible that Emperor have knowledge of this power, based on his exploration of most sinister and uncharted depths of the dark side.
In short, Emperor's character leaves room for lot of creative liberties.
The Ones and Abeloth are stronger then Sidious (Canon incarnation). Not sure how Palpatine (DE) is measured in comparison to them.
I really do not buy that hype of Son and Daughter honestly. They failed to destroy Abeloth for instance.
In addition, Son attacked Obi-Wan, Anakin and Ahsoka with his telekinetic powers and outcome was not better in comparison to other Force-user juggernauts who have comparable showings in the mythos. So if Son could really destroy the Universe, why couldn't he vaporize 3 Jedi?
I find that statement of Father manipulative since he wanted Anakin to take his place. To convince Anakin, it would make sense for the Father to concoct a scary story for the Jedi to give his request a consideration.
Also, Abeloth is the reason why The Ones resided in Mortis.
I just did right above.
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Well I can't quite say anything similar about you, because no one here cares about your life, let alone the lies you make up about your life in order to impress people who don't know you.
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The Dread Master's telepathic and corruption abilities turned a planet into an indescribably powerful nexus of dark side energies. They are no joke.
They are very impressive in combat, the fact you don't know that proves you lack education on them and therefore you discussing them is pathetic.
Last time I check, the only time Sidious took on the Jedi's best is when they forced him into crying for Anakin to save him, unless I am mistaken?
This isn't more impressive then Revan's feat, hun. Once the barrier is broken, it doesn't matter what character A does with characters B, C, D, etc.
You say that as if it has some real meaning, and if Dooku actually had a Force Barrier on in the protective barries of his castle.
That's your failings, not mine.
Indeed, DE Sidious is very impressive, though I fail to see how linking two places together via the power of the Force is more impressive then utterly consuming all that space and time for infinite more miles.
Can I have a quote on this?
This pissed me off too much to where I know I won't be able to respond without offending you, so I won't.
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Out of the dumb things said in this thread so far, the bold text is numero uno. I mean, wow.
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An' he decides who to free and who to blame.
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A creative or artistic liberty is basically pure exaggeration. For example, historical films take "creative liberties" that hold little historical accuracy in the attempt of making them more dramatic, even if they don't stay true to what they actually were.
If you want to learn more, read up on Coppola's film Marie Antoinette, that's probably the most well known one.
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