Registered: Jan 2007
Location: Roaming the Universe
Found the statement Digi made concerning how it makes sense (sortof)
No I'm talking about the Cubes, the child units are Cubes that have become sentient (sorry for the confusion), and in the process have imposed limits on themselves. Hence the likes of Kubik, a sentient cube is far below a Celestial, while a Cube has potential to be far above a Celestials. But it doesn't become easier because Marvel is operating with different levels of Omnipotence.
Registered: Jul 2013
Location: In the Throne of God
Ah, that. Sorry, I will check that in the pertaining comic just to refresh my memory. It's a bit rusty
I would say that Marvel's cosmic scale works with different levels of infinity , which are actually a thing in math, not of omnipotence (which should be an absolute anyway).
So when is 5L going to post a feat of the Trueforce on par with one of PR Beyonder's?
I lol'd at his silly ass posting Beyonder saying he doesn't think he can remake death, entirely ignorant of the fact that he goes ahead and does that, btw.
Neo-Omnipotence: Limited by imagination is what the beyonders have as being a higher degree of Nigh-Omnipotence so I added them and removed Beyonder because
Pre-Retcon Beyonder by Jim Starlin was omnipotent......
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Location: Sanctum of Innocence
That's a planetary feat at most between all 3 goddesses. The video shows nor says anything about space, the sun, or physics. There's a line about "giving law to the world", but considering it also says how living beings were created to uphold said law, I very much doubt that refers to the laws of physics.
In fact, the narration implies that Hyrule existed before the goddesses even came along: "There golden goddesses descended upon the chaos that was Hyrule".
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Registered: Apr 2008
Location: 1/9.7'rd Horseman of the Apocalypse
Coming in to dispel some misconceptions. Then I'm out. I care not for this nonsense and Zelda shouldn't even be in this thread. With that said:
The goddesses are above planetary. They can definitely not be proven to be on the level of the ****ing Beyonder, though, lol.
"When Hyrule was created by the three goddesses at the beginning of time, there were certain side effects of its creation which Din, Nayru and Farore did not anticipate. As the three holy women breathed life into the world and chased away Emptiness, their potent breath slipped through tiny cracks in the folds of space and created millions of alternate worlds in the process."
This proves that they are not, for example, omniscient, as they did this by accident.
The Triforce is also explicitly beneath their power, as per some Japanese translation I don't have the link to right now, but it does passively sustain the Zeldaverse. The prime one, alternate realities seem to have their own triforce, unless they're tied to the main reality in which case they're sustained by the main triforce.
Zelda cosmology is ****ing strange, is what I'm saying.
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But you wouldn't know as you rest your head.
Oh yeah, is that the one with the 2 japanese translations and then the Ameri-whore one? I think I have that saved somewhere.
I'm going to argue semantics on this one, Scream. Focusing on the word 'cannot'. I say that it's no different than saying TOAA "cannot" be weaker than Spiderman. In both instances, what the phrase is really saying is that the subjects chooses not to judge, or not to be weaker.
This is a common thing to see if you roll in the religion debates.
So to that end, I still disagree with you. Valiant effort, though.
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Registered: Apr 2008
Location: 1/9.7'rd Horseman of the Apocalypse
Even disregarding the Triforce's inability to do what the goddesses can, the Master Sword has likewise told it to sit down and eat its vegetables, proving once more that it is not omnipotent.
It honestly surprises me people still try to argue with me about Zelda canon, as if I have a life or something and haven't studied this shit extensively instead of doing something productive.
And again, Zelda is still not an anime, and still does not belong in this thread.
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The moon and stars aren't just shades of lead
But you wouldn't know as you rest your head.
"Can not" is the opposite of "can", which means "be able to". If the Triforce could judge between good and evil then it would be wrong to said it "cannot" (only retards write "can not" as one word by the way).
If the quote said "The Triforce itself WILL NOT", then that would leave the quote open to the interpretation that it is capable of doing so, but chooses not to.
The current quote leaves nothing open to interpretation.
Also, when you typed,"In both instances, what the phrase is really saying is that the subjects chooses not to judge, or not to be weaker", you incorrectly used "chooses" here. "Chooses" should only be used when there is a singular subject. With multiple subjects "choose" should be used.
Like I said before, Master Sword counters it's effects. It's not a switch that shuts the Triforce off. Its purpose is to make a way for the world to be brought back to light should the Triforce ever be gripped by evil. You're making it sound like Link once smashed the Triforce with the MS.
I KNEW you would try to pull that out. Too bad it doesn't mean a thing.
It seems you have forgotten that the Triforce has been "destroyed" more than once, only to have no affect on its powers, both pre-existing and wishes after (Wind Waker, for example).
Ergo, the Triforce still exists and still functions when complete, like always. Whether its 3 pieces, 8 pieces, or 1000 pieces, when the relic is in its final form, it will bring the power. Play a Zelda game and respect your betters.
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