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How Skilled or powerful will Kylo Ren be?
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quanchi112
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He should be pretty formidable. We shall see.


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Bumping this.


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He's a bit of a noob.

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He's probably a bit below someone like Ventress, IMO.


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Looks like he fights the black stormtrooper turned Jedi in the trailer from yesterday, so unless he stomps him, nothing special.

Maybe slightly better than Inquisitor, maybe not.


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Cin Drallig level


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Looks like he fights the black stormtrooper turned Jedi in the trailer from yesterday, so unless he stomps him, nothing special.

Maybe slightly better than Inquisitor, maybe not.


[SPOILER - highlight to read]: He does.

According to rumors and what JJ has said, I expect he will grow throughout the films and end up being roughly Vader level.

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According to rumors and what JJ has said, I expect he will grow throughout the films and end up being roughly Vader level.



So he'll achieve his dream eventually.

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quote: (post)
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Looks like he fights the black stormtrooper turned Jedi in the trailer from yesterday, so unless he stomps him, nothing special.

Maybe slightly better than Inquisitor, maybe not.
Oh dear lord.


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Srs?


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[SPOILER - highlight to read]: He does.

According to rumors and what JJ has said, I expect he will grow throughout the films and end up being roughly Vader level.
[SPOILER - highlight to read]: Are there going to be more lightsaber duels in the movie?


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Power wise, I'm guessing maybe Kyp Durron. There is a rumor circulating that he is the son of Han and Han begs Luke not to kill him. 30 years after RoTJ, Luke is extremely powerful. I'm thinking that these next films are set during the DE series. Unfortunately, there will be Thrawn.


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[SPOILER - highlight to read]: Are there going to be more lightsaber duels in the movie?


[SPOILER - highlight to read]: Yes. Rey vs Kylo.

Leaked (very early) concept art of said scene.

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That nigga kinda looks like Malgus, LOL.

And who's that guy next to Kylo?


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Finn I'd assume.

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Power wise, I'm guessing maybe Kyp Durron. There is a rumor circulating that he is the son of Han and Han begs Luke not to kill him. 30 years after RoTJ, Luke is extremely powerful. I'm thinking that these next films are set during the DE series. Unfortunately, there will be Thrawn.


1.) Thrawn happened before DE.
2.) DE was ~5 years after RotJ
3.) Neither of these stories are canon, and neither is NR Luke as we know him.

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Something to consider is that Kylo’s lightsaber is unstable. He is incapable of constructing a proper lightsaber. This seems to be a clear reference to Vader claiming that Luke’s “skills are complete” when he sees that Luke has constructed a saber. This of course suggests that only a fully trained Jedi is capable of constructing a saber.

We of course now know that even younglings are capable of constructing proper lightsabers. But it seems JJ and crew is ignoring that and returning solely to the OT.

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I don't think he'll go that far given Erza and the younglings in TCW. Anakin also had one in AotC. It'd be a huge retcon.

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I was assuming Kylo's 'saber was really old and that he found it somewhere or something.


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Nah, this isn't some Prequel/TCW Hater's movie. It isn't even JJ's movie. It's Lucasfilms. And they understand the OT is more popular but the story group states the PT is canon nonetheless and they're the ones in charge of any retconning not JJ.

As for Luke's training being complete after constructing his Saber.. Well Luke's training didn't exactly happen in the most orthodox way. He was handed a Lightsaber before any training. So maybe for him that was the final part of his training, because it was something he missed in the initial stages of his training.

Kylo Ren's training is also likely going to be unorthodox and rushed.

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