It happened to him in right that time. He had no reason for picking out Darkseid's vibrations before that. You are taking it like "he was constantly hearing for that specific vibration." He didn't. And no, there is no evidence that he heard the song of the multiverse before Superman beyond where he specifically heard it for the first time.
Yeah, I came into "your" thread. So? And that doesn't applies to Surfer's feat?
Not really. Surfer's feat is much more ambiguous. Just one panel of Narration doesn't makes it infallible truth. You try to pretend it though. Superman's feat is pretty cut and dry though since we can actually determine what he did to achieve the feat. In surfer's case it's just left for imagination.
Did I say Superman was unstoppable via that narration? No. But you are doing it for surfer though, using that narration as absolute truth. It said it was the greatest ice cream. On what basis? It's just as much hyperbole as the superman claim.
And if it isn't greatest, it also throws doubt at how far surfer actually scanned. Since you can't take one part of the sentence and discard other.
That's not my task. And FYI, this is my last post for this "feat". You don't agree with it, I don't give a damn. Have fun with nitpicking.
And I already said that he did pickup on DS's vibrations on that scene. But there is zero proof in either statement or narration that states that Superman suddenly picked up on the whole vibration of the multiverse all of a sudden. One would think the writer would at least make a tiny effort of being specific if he suddenly had Superman pick up on something very relevant to the story, eh?
I mean how does saying:
"The worlds of the multiverse vibrate together, Darkseid...and make this sound, like an orchestra."
Mean that he picked up on something completely new?
How the statement is worded almost literally SHOVES it in your face that he knew of this concept before and he's just stating it matter-of-factly. A concept that AFAIK exists in modern string theory (with a bit of comic-y writer's interpretation thrown in). Kryptonian science + Superbrain + Super senses would tell you that this concept would be almost pre-school for someone like Superman.
Funny thing is you would dismiss Surfer's extremely specific "feat" when he has intention, statements, scene/story and narration backing him due to hyperbole while Superman's "feat" of instantly "hearing the multiverse" (that is not even specifically mentioned in the scan) basing it on nothing but mere vague character statements (how is one "hyperbole" and not the other?) has less validity than Superman's? It boggles the mind.....
How is Surfer's "feat" ambiguous at all??? He SPECIFICALLY mentioned that he was using his cosmic senses to look for the greatest ice cream in the universe. He SPECIFICALLY made the attempt right then and there and the narration SPECIFICALLY mentioned that he found it. And unless you're saying that he was just BSing the whole time (can't cuz narration says he did it), one cannot claim to have found the roundest pebble in the stream without first looking at all the pebbles in the stream....
I guess to you: Superman: vague statements (that doesn't even mention anything about hearing the multiverse right that second) = cut and dry. Surfer: specific statements backed by narration = ambiguous. Yeahhhhh... No.
The basis is the narration says it is. Which means the writer is saying it is. Sorry, but it's not my fault you don't like it....
Letting you have the last word isn't conceding anything.
It's just the fact that you have the tendency to argue for several pages and you never change your view, even if a mod comes in and tells you otherwise. So why waste time arguing with you?
I think Surfer and Superman are ridiculous in that department and equals. But peeps like Heimdall are above them imo. Dawnstar and Lobo are also up there.
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