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quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah, I added Planck time feats later. Mostly for h1's sake, as he has used Planck time assertions for Dr M. many times as proof of his space. Whereas here we now have an actual fight taking place in Planck time.
Ares perceives time differently than mortals, not sure how that would apply to a fight between him and Spiderman.
Unless we want to try to attribute him with Flash type speed or Zoom-esque abilities, which I hope no one here is.
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Feb 25th, 2015 09:26 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Mindset
Ares perceives time differently than mortals, not sure how that would apply to a fight between him and Spiderman.
Unless we want to try to attribute him with Flash type speed or Zoom-esque abilities, which I hope no one here is.
Who do you see winning?
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Feb 25th, 2015 09:27 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Who do you see winning?
Your mom.
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Feb 25th, 2015 09:27 PM
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Lol.
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Feb 25th, 2015 09:29 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Mindset
Your mom.
QFT.
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Feb 25th, 2015 09:31 PM
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Spiderman does extremely well against high end bricks...
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And he is durable enough to take hits from high tier beings. Anyone judging for him would not be wrong, at all.
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Feb 25th, 2015 09:32 PM
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So you're saying Spiderman can throw punches > exploding Quinjets, and missile explosions to the face, and Ultron's lightning?
Let's not forget, before Sentry went Void and tore him apart, Ares WASN'T KO'ed by Sentry's punches.
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Feb 25th, 2015 10:07 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So you're saying Spiderman can throw punches > exploding Quinjets, and missile explosions to the face, and Ultron's lightning?
Let's not forget, before Sentry went Void and tore him apart, Ares WASN'T KO'ed by Sentry's punches.
What I'm saying is, Spiderman has dropped powerful beings with repeated punches at super speed. What im also saying is during stress moments, his strength skyrockets and there are fts proving this. There's more showings of him damaging beings in Ares tier than not.
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Feb 25th, 2015 10:15 PM
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Also, lol, Ares probably has withstood punches from high tier beings but so has Spiderman...
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Does that mean Ares can't drop Spiderman either (and Jugs is stronger than Ares by the way)?
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Feb 25th, 2015 10:18 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Also, lol, Ares probably has withstood punches from high tier beings but so has Spiderman...
Does that mean Ares can't drop Spiderman either (and Jugs is stronger than Ares by the way)?
Is Jugs stronger than Ares when punching in that position?
Are you saying a haymaker from Ares < a behind the neck punch at that angle? You'd have to prove that. Scans, please.
Not to mention, Spidey himself acknowledges that even in that position, Juggy would have killed him. The cement was lucky.
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Feb 25th, 2015 10:23 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Is Jugs stronger than Ares when punching in that position?
Are you saying a haymaker from Ares < a behind the neck punch at that angle? You'd have to prove that. Scans, please.
Not to mention, Spidey himself acknowledges that even in that position, Juggy would have killed him. The cement was lucky.
Jugs is FAR stronger than Ares. What is there to prove? Jugs is in the High Herald tier physically, Ares isn't close to that kind of strength, but he does have great durability. I'm trying to figure out what strength fts or showings you are using to put Ares in Jugs tier physically? And yes, I think Juggernaut punches on Spiderman in that position IS stronger than Ares punches since their tier isn't even close imo. You need scans proving it, we'll here ya go...
Ares charges Hulk and gets one shot koed.
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http://s94.photobucket.com/user/pri...lkares.jpg.html
Do I honestly need to post the Juggernaut vs WWH fight? Let's put it like this, it lasted MUCH longer than a one hit.
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Feb 25th, 2015 10:42 PM
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Ahhh now I see the yardstick you are using
That was no haymaker from Ares, and no mention of it in relation to Juggy's behind the neck punches.
Also, you didn't acknowledge my point - that Spiderman was getting killed by Juggy. So what is YOUR point?
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Feb 25th, 2015 10:46 PM
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Ares got wtf pwned in When Titans Collide by Hulk, too.
Spider-Man did 1000x times better on his worst day.
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Feb 25th, 2015 10:48 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Ares got wtf pwned in When Titans Collide by Hulk, too.
Spider-Man did 1000x times better on his worst day.
Lol...I forgot about that fight.
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Feb 25th, 2015 10:54 PM
carver9
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Ahhh now I see the yardstick you are using
That was no haymaker from Ares, and no mention of it in relation to Juggy's behind the neck punches.
Also, you didn't acknowledge my point - that Spiderman was getting killed by Juggy. So what is YOUR point?
WTF. Of course repeated blows from someone in Juggernauts tier would kill Spiderman...it would kill Ares as well. Ares got dropped in a single hit from WWH, imagine if he would've continued. Juggernaut withstood much more than that which proves the tier difference between the two (Ares and Jugs) and Spiderman handled Jugs blows like a Champ until plot took over.
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Feb 25th, 2015 10:57 PM
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With Spiderman's tactile traction, agility, speed, and strength, Ares never gets a chance to hit him. Spiderman gives him a Firelord beat down.
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Feb 25th, 2015 11:03 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Stoic
With Spiderman's tactile traction, agility, speed, and strength, Ares never gets a chance to hit him. Spiderman gives him a Firelord beat down.
He perceives time differently.
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Feb 25th, 2015 11:05 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
WTF. Of course repeated blows from someone in Juggernauts tier would kill Spiderman...it would kill Ares as well. Ares got dropped in a single hit from WWH, imagine if he would've continued. Juggernaut withstood much more than that which proves the tier difference between the two (Ares and Jugs) and Spiderman handled Jugs blows like a Champ until plot took over.
Like a champ? He was nearly passing out, let's not kid ourselves here.
Not to mention, how is Spidey against axes?
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Feb 25th, 2015 11:06 PM
carver9
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Stoic
With Spiderman's tactile traction, agility, speed, and strength, Ares never gets a chance to hit him. Spiderman gives him a Firelord beat down.
Or the Absorbing man or Masterson treatment (Spiderman super speed blows were getting to him during the end)...
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Difference is, Ares doesn't have the versatility Masterson have to get Spidey up off of him.
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Feb 25th, 2015 11:08 PM
carver9
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Like a champ? He was nearly passing out, let's not kid ourselves here.
Not to mention, how is Spidey against axes?
I guess our definition of like a Champ is different. Doesn't matter. Him withstanding those hits are insane and tells me he can handle blows from Ares (if he even get a lick in).
Lol...even with CIS playing it's part here, i find it hard to believe that Ares would even get in a lick on Spidey. You could probably argue this with any other character but Spiderman is one of the most consistent characters in comics when it comes to displaying, speed, agility, and coordination. I wish Ares luck with tagging him.
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