Yeah, Firelord could've ended it with energy powers, but didn't. But that doesn't negate the fact that he's physically much more powerful than Spider-Man.
Pete has a number of examples like this to varying degrees. They're not the norm, but they exist. Should they? Well.....comics. He's not the only one who has benefited from this.
I don't know the context, but to me that looks like simply Ares being a god meant he could get there without being effected, instead of it as an actual speed feat for Ares. Again, based just on the scans presented.
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Well there is the fact that Masterson Thor was a 3rd rate character that had no idea how to fight. Spiderman wont be afforded that kind of luxury with Ares.
I'd actually like to understand how Ares is going to touch Spiderman if he fights to the best of his ability? The only thing that I actually see that Ares has over Spiderman is strength. What solid combat feats has Ares actually displayed to say that he would win without a doubt besides him being more powerful? Ares will slip, while Spiderman will stick and move hitting him from any and every angle.
Then you have comments like this comparing Ares to the Hulk. Really?
The Hulk literally one shot kayoed Ares without any effort. This shows that Ares isn't as powerful as people supporting him seem to base their opinions on. l However I see a lot of low balling feats that have happened more than a dozen times in his history. Or the choice to attempt to ignore them, but still without a solid reason to feel that way. Was it PIS when Spiderman did well against Namor as well? Or, could it be that at the top of his game, Spiderman's physical abilities allow him to compete with characters above his weight class? I can at least give a reasonable outcome and possibility that Peter could lose, but the staunch Ares supporters seem incapable of admitting that there is a large possibility that Ares may never lay a glove on a serious Spiderman operating within the full capacity rule. In other words, Spiderman has beaten characters as strong as Ares, without being hit even once.
A reason aside from BSing, and telling me that I'm grasping at straws, while not having a solid point themselves would suffice.
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It really comes down to whether you accept Spider-Man beating(or at least hurting) physically far more powerful characters hand-to-hand or ignore those showings. There's a bunch of examples that speed is a factor, but his actual general level is well under his strength accomplishing that even with multiple blows.
But Spidey isn't the only character whose popularity/status allows him to benefit from showings like this.
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That was wwh, it was his event. Everyone jobs to u when it's your event. Ares tagged Hermes with a freaking nail gun, he's that good. Parker wont wow him with his acrobatics when he got the jump on a legit speedster. Ares has the edge in strength, durability, endurance, stamina fighting ability. Parker has the edge in speed, and agility. Ares stomps and his axe is standard equipment
The only reason the WWH showing should be in doubt is just the one shot. Especially the angle of the punch too. Not saying Hulk couldn't if given a good punch but that certainly wasn't a good showing.
Still, Hulk should still easily trash him. It's not like Ares should have challenged him any.
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I'm citing pis not using hulk as a measuring stick. Parker hops around dodging blows and striking opponents he doesn't go blow for blow like Ares. Him lasting longer has more to do with agility than anything
But he still has his webs, and Ares is not too heavy for him to web up his feet, and play wrecking ball. What could Ares do if his being spun around and his head is hitting a wall every second? Spiderman could do this repeatedly to Ares and wear his durability down. Ares is actually faster than Spiderman, but because Spiderman has minor precognitive powers, and tactile traction (can stick to most surfaces) he has the ability to cut corners. Ares would slip and slide as I stated, while Spiderman would be able to stick, and immediately move as fast as his ligaments allowed him to. I can see Spiderman losing, but it depends on whether Ares is able to hit him.
Spiderman actually has the strength to use huge environmental objects against Ares as well. The real question here is does the guy with greater speed (Spiderman because of his ability to stick) greater agility, low to mid range strength, and webs to slow down a stronger opponent have any reason of beating the guy with greater strength, durability, and greater forward movement speeds? I think that Peter has a great chance of winning, but I also believe that Ares could win. He would just have to hit Spiderman a few times.
Hermes doesn't have low level precognitive powers to see the future before it happens and move out of the way. There are plenty of characters that are more powerful than Spiderman, that Ares would run the bag off of, but in some cases the weaker character due to power set actually would dominate the much more powerful one. Shit in nature the mongoose does it all day every day against cobra's.
The ground? Can he bash him against the ground? Webbing? Can his webs serve to slow Ares down if he repeatedly gums up his joints with the material? what about sticking his feet to the ground added with gumming up his joints? None of these things are outside of his character. Ares is also a hot head. What happens to hot heads in fights? They tend to telegraph a lot. This is one of Spiderman's favorite tools in many of his battles. Spiderman doesn't even have to directly punch Ares to land huge impacts on him with those webs if you were to think about it, and Ares only weighs about 350-400lbs. This isn't going to stop Spiderman from launching him with those webs, and bringing him back down to earth head first.
The scan isn't working. Is that the fight between Spiderman 2099 and Maestro? If so, does Spiderman 2099 have a spider sense? Maestro is also faster than Ares. The Hulk is exceptionally fast, and his AOE attacks are significantly more powerful. I understand what you are getting at, but you can't compare Maestro to Ares. Maestro makes Ares look like a light weight.
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Bluewaterrider: "I'm surprised that a Skyfather like Zeus defeated Hulk when Zeus' Top-Tier son Hercules has lost to Hulk."
