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NemeBro
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Cod, yes. I'm a sucker for zombies mode though. Battlefield, on the other hand, is great whether you think it is or not. This IS a general consensus, so way to be the wrong minority.


That's a cute appeal to majority there little guy.

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Never said why people buy them.


Sure you have. You did so by making comparisons to Battlefield and noting multiplayer is the only reason people buy Battlefield.

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Ya, partly, but that's not why it survives (1 had a boring campaign, and 2 was cool but tedious after a while). You could cut these out and still have a fun multiplayer. Maybe even an even better multiplayer since all the focus would be on multiplayer alone.


Sure you could, but why not have both be good? I don't believe in the notion that one aspect of a game necessarily has to be cut for something to be good. Battlefront had a good campaign and fun multiplayer. This new Battlefront can only aspire to the latter, and frankly its multiplayer sounds much less fun than 2's.

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And anyone and their mom that owned a ps2 had these games. You're not special for having played them. Literally every kid I knew back then that had a ps2 had Battlefront. Now I wouldn't call myself a fan (always hated the movies except for the original 3, and even they don't compare to Star Trek), but I owned and played them just like everyone else. thumb up


Correct I'm not special. You're special for having never played it. thumb up

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I don't know about any other possible criticisms
Then why are you here?


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That's a cute appeal to majority there little guy.
At least you realize you're the minority. If you don't see whats amazing about Battlefield, thats your loss. If you ever give it a legitimate chance, you'll eat your words. You wouldn't be the first naysayer I converted, and you wouldn't be the last.

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Sure you have. You did so by making comparisons to Battlefield and noting multiplayer is the only reason people buy Battlefield.
Nope. You're still putting words in my mouth. You said, "People played Battlefront partly for the single player. So stop speaking on why people bought those games."

I never once made a claim as to why people bought past Battlefront games. Past Battlefields sure, but thats appropriate considering who's making this one.

And the multiplayer in this game will likely be fantastic.

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Sure you could, but why not have both be good? I don't believe in the notion that one aspect of a game necessarily has to be cut for something to be good. Battlefront had a good campaign and fun multiplayer. This new Battlefront can only aspire to the latter, and frankly its multiplayer sounds much less fun than 2's.
Maybe, maybe not. I have faith in DICE in this area. Your lack of faith is pretty unjustified (no, not a missed opportunity you nerds).

Either way, we'll have to wait and see.

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Correct I'm not special. You're special for having never played it. thumb up
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Then why are you here?
Same reason you are. I feel like it. Not something anyone has to justify. It is an internet forum after all.


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Thank god for DICE. thumb up

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Yeah, DICE is making it so of course everything will be alright and awesome, regardless of all the news we've heard thus far being negative, and despite BF4 and Hardline being dogshit.

You"ve just gotta keep the blind faith man.


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Yeah, DICE is making it so of course everything will be alright and awesome, regardless of all the news we've heard thus far being negative, and despite BF4 and Hardline being dogshit.

You"ve just gotta keep the blind faith man.
Its not blind faith. It's a near certainty.

Battlefield 4 had great online. It had server issues at launch, which is why it gets a bad rap despite the fact that those issues where ironed out after two months. Gameplay wise, it's on point just like every other game in the series with the exception of Hardline. You'd actually have an argument there with Hardline.

If it was made by DICE, anyway.


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The gane being unplayable for almost three months after launch is not great online.


Everything we've heard about this game has pointed to it not following the BF formula, so even if you wanted to frame the discussion in that context, you're still clinging to blind faith.


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The gane being unplayable for almost three months after launch is not great online.

Everything we've heard about this game has pointed to it not following the BF formula, so even if you wanted to frame the discussion in that context, you're still clinging to blind faith.
Server issues should have been ironed out before hand, but that wasn't on DICE anyway. They were forced to put the game out the door by EA to beat CoD to the punch that year. Plus, server problems have no bearing on actual gameplay. The game is 9/10 material right now with a massive fanbase. DICE has a great track record with this series, which means they probably at least know a few things about making balanced online competitive play that they can apply to Battlefront. All the experience they have in the area counts for a lot, which is why its not blind faith. They'll pull it off.


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If literally the only reason you're optimistic about the game is because "it's DICE", that's the text-book definition of blind faith.


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If literally the only reason you're optimistic about the game is because "it's DICE", that's the text-book definition of blind faith.
Blind faith would have no basis. DICE is a triple A developer with a ton of multiplayer experience and their own game engine that was practically made for this game. They're the best developers this could have been passed to. Could you imagine if this was passed to Infinity Ward, Respawn, or 343? It'll have well designed maps, unique weapons/vehicles, and good balance because they understand how to execute these things.


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I think it's likely to have good map design and balance at a bare mininum. Having those two qualities does not make it a good Battlefront game.


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I think it's likely to have good map design and balance at a bare mininum. Having those two qualities does not make it a good Battlefront game.
Alright, you guys are pretty set on hating this. I get that you guys feel alienated by the changes, so lets agree to disagree until we at least see legitimate gameplay.


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I'm entirely ambivalent on it actually- expect shit and hope for gold is my life outlook. My point is that your optimism is pretty baseless if you're looking for something beyond just a re-skin of Battlefield. Almost every new development we've heard about the game thus far has pointed to a regression/dumbing down of the series rather than a progression. "But it's DICE" really does nothing to address those concerns.


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Gearbox is famous for it's Borderlands but that didn't help Duke Nukem.

I'll wait to see some gameplay before I give my verdict but so far, it looks disappointing.


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Gearbox is famous for it's Borderlands but that didn't help Duke Nukem.


I don't get that with Gearbox, They pour all they're love and passion to make the Borderlands games be good and yet when they're given the chance to help finish off a game that's been stuck in development hell they squander it.

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Duke Nukem Forever was at that point beyond saving without literally scrapping everything and starting over from nothing, which would just probably repeat the cycle. I don't think it could have been saved.


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I don't think it could have been saved.


I think it could'eve been saved...well better then what we ended up with, But i blame the people Gearbox assigned to complete it.

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Gearbox also gave us Colonial Marines, iirc.

Borderlands aside, I wouldn't put much faith in them.


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Gearbox also gave us Colonial Marines, iirc.
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And yet they gave Sega to do all the work.

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