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Is "Time" real?

What is time? Is it a real force that we all feel the influence of? Is it a mere construct? Just a unit of measurement?
I want to know what the popular opinion is, or perhaps even the truth of the matter.

My opinion as it stand now is that it is merely a unit by which we measure growth, decay and change. Thoughts?


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Time is every impression there is, it's what makes consciousness limited but allow it to feel free. It's sense.


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Time is every impression there is, it's what makes consciousness limited but allow it to feel free. It's sense.


So you say it's perceived? A sense? Hmm, interesting.


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I think some physicists see time as a construct, that time is actually discontinuous (like "seeing" smooth, continuous motion/change in a movie, when it's really separate, discrete frames whizzing by). Perceptually, we construct continuity (smooth motion and change) because this helps us to better navigate the physical world (or to better understand a movie).

Essentially, it was to our apparent, evolutionary advantage to construct mental maps which enable us to see the forest, not the trees.


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Re: Is "Time" real?

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Originally posted by LLLLLink
What is time? Is it a real force that we all feel the influence of? Is it a mere construct? Just a unit of measurement?
I want to know what the popular opinion is, or perhaps even the truth of the matter.

My opinion as it stand now is that it is merely a unit by which we measure growth, decay and change. Thoughts?

You stole this topic to me.

Time is like butter you can cut it, it will alway possessa thickness.....To me time is continuous there is no frame, there is only a periode of time between two frames.

If there is frame, they are very near 0, or equal to zero units of times and are infinites.

Event occur,but it take time to occur... and possess diiferent issues in different alertnative realties..

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Re: Is "Time" real?

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What is time? Is it a real force that we all feel the influence of? Is it a mere construct? Just a unit of measurement?
I want to know what the popular opinion is, or perhaps even the truth of the matter.

My opinion as it stand now is that it is merely a unit by which we measure growth, decay and change. Thoughts?


Time by itself is a construct, but when combined with space, it becomes something real.

Space-time is how you really should see time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacetime


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I would say time is experiential - something subjective in the mind of the person who experiences the passage of time. Time does however also exist objectively, but the experience of time is always personal, unless there is also mutual agreement related to a common experience of shared time. It is agreed upon between individual human beings that we are tracking and orientating ourselves in alignment to this objective version of time. So yes time is real because we make it real by taking it seriously. It is not however a 100% illusion - it does pass, it does exist, but we experience individually different versions of time within ourselves as well as co-experience a common, shared version of objective time. If time was entirely an illusion then nothing would ever happen...no events, no movement, nothing. Ultimately everything in existence happens simultaneously..all at once, however down here when we are in human incarnation things are experienced as happening in sequential moments. It is as if our human experience superimposes a construct of time upon the external reality. So time is both real and unreal at the same time :-)

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I would say time is experiential - something subjective in the mind of the person who experiences the passage of time. Time does however also exist objectively, but the experience of time is always personal, unless there is also mutual agreement related to a common experience of shared time. It is agreed upon between individual human beings that we are tracking and orientating ourselves in alignment to this objective version of time. So yes time is real because we make it real by taking it seriously. It is not however a 100% illusion - it does pass, it does exist, but we experience individually different versions of time within ourselves as well as co-experience a common, shared version of objective time. If time was entirely an illusion then nothing would ever happen...no events, no movement, nothing. Ultimately everything in existence happens simultaneously..all at once, however down here when we are in human incarnation things are experienced as happening in sequential moments. It is as if our human experience superimposes a construct of time upon the external reality. So time is both real and unreal at the same time :-)



I once read a statement that said "Can a dog be late?"
I suppose the answer was 'no', because the dog doesn't care about the time, or the concept of being 'on time'. Your post made me think of that.


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Time by itself is a construct, but when combined with space, it becomes something real.

Space-time is how you really should see time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacetime

And altenative dimensions... Let's go to the 5D the D of infinite.

We piercieve the time... Like we piercive the light.. But our eyes can only see from 380 to 720 nm.

We can hear sound.... But same thing here.... We cannot know what the time is based on our perceptions !!!

It's like trying to figure it out how U.V or I.R look like...
If I told you :
"Have you ever seen this wonderfull X-ray in your eyes? It is such beauty..."
I bet than your answer wil be :
"Eeeer O.K.. If you say so..."

Time is a part of our world.... Something we can "feel" quantify.... But really not describe... We cannot hear it, neither see it or touch it...
I think than some animal like dog fore example can also "feel" the existance of time without knowing the concept... There is experience about that...

The concept og being inlate is related to the concept of time but that's an other concept... And time is not only a concept that's a real thing... More real than your desk.....

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And altenative dimensions... Let's go to the 5D the D of infinite.

We piercieve the time... Like we piercive the light.. But our eyes can only see from 380 to 720 nm.

We can hear sound.... But same thing here.... We cannot know what the time is based on our perceptions !!!

It's like trying to figure it out how U.V or I.R look like...
If I told you :
"Have you ever seen this wonderfull X-ray in your eyes? It is such beauty..."
I bet than your answer wil be :
"Eeeer O.K.. If you say so..."

Time is a part of our world.... Something we can "feel" quantify.... But really not describe... We cannot hear it, neither see it or touch it...
I think than some animal like dog fore example can also "feel" the existance of time without knowing the concept... There is experience about that...

The concept og being inlate is related to the concept of time but that's an other concept... And time is not only a concept that's a real thing... More real than your desk.....


Hopefully the question of other dimensions will be answered in the next few years. CERN should be able to test for higher dimensions now that it has been refitted.


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Time is reality, without it, nothing is. Is also entropy flowing.

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how is tie reality, i see time as a western construct in the sense of measurement and there needing to occur event based, time is based on events in poth a percieved and reacting sense


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I want everything to be christiany. I'd much rather nothing be an illusion, if, and when I die, pretty sure I'd be heartbroken to find it was all an illusion.


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how is tie reality,


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without it, nothing is.

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Because


could you please elaborate how time mixes in with reality?

i consider reality an occurence that can act without the measurement of time, i consider it stages of matter

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I see it to be used for organization. Really? There isn't time, it's just something we used to organize things.

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exactly, its event based


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could you please elaborate how time mixes in with reality?


There can't be anything without time http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minkowski_space , time "makes" reality due to entropy (the thermo dynamic arrow of time).

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i consider reality an occurence that can act without the measurement of time, i consider it stages of matter [/B]


The experience of time is relative
The measurement of it is a human convention
Measure of time =/= nature of time. Two different things.

This reading is pretty interesting http://physicsworld.com/cws/article...-nature-of-time

This theory is also pretty cool: http://www.wired.com/2010/02/what-is-time/ (even in the "mother" universe, time makes fluctuations possible).

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