1) It's hard not to read this as "man, if only Hitler had gone after Muslims instead of Jews."
2) One of Hitler's policies during the war was to foment Arab rebellions and nationalist movements in the British controlled parts of the Middle East like Mesopotamia (Iraq) and Egypt.
Man, too bad the Allies stopped Hitler before he could save us from those pesky Muslims.
__________________
“Where the longleaf pines are whispering
to him who loved them so.
Where the faint murmurs now dwindling
echo o’er tide and shore."
-A Grave Epitaph in Santa Rosa County, Florida; I wish I could remember the man's name.
Hey, here's an idea: Let's focus on what people actually do and the parts they really follow, rather than, you know, tarring literally hundreds of millions of people with behavior they do not do?
If most Muslims don't actually listen to those parts, what does it matter?
Yeah, let's not forget that the Old Testament says it's okay to turn on your ex-allies and slaughter them in their sleep if they're no longer useful to you and of a different ethnicity.
__________________
“Where the longleaf pines are whispering
to him who loved them so.
Where the faint murmurs now dwindling
echo o’er tide and shore."
-A Grave Epitaph in Santa Rosa County, Florida; I wish I could remember the man's name.
If you toss a No True Scotsman at me, I'm going to go to your house and take your women. Fair warning.
__________________
"The Daemon lied with every breath. It could not help itself but to deceive and dismay, to riddle and ruin. The more we conversed, the closer I drew to one singularly ineluctable fact: I would gain no wisdom here."
Last edited by Tzeentch on Apr 5th, 2015 at 11:47 PM
Loosely speaking with this Nuke deal, Israel will be slaughtered. And Obama could have stopped it. So yea directly or indirect its the same thing. The bible tells a story of people. People do bad things. Then and now.
Israel has a sizable nuclear arsenal. They have more than mutually assured destruction with Iran even if Iran gets a nuke. Come off this.
Israel wants a more aggressive American Iran policy not because of the danger of a nuclear armed Iran, but because it wants America to do its heavy lifting for it in containing Iran's conventional ambitions and proxies.
I'm sure by your definition, anything short of America invading Iran would be a betrayal of Israel. If that's the case, then I think loyalty to Israel isn't worth it.
There's a lot of talk about how dangerous Iran would be with a nuke, but really, there isn't a single major example of Iran launching a direct preemptive attack on an enemy since the 1979 revolution. Israel on the other hand...
__________________
“Where the longleaf pines are whispering
to him who loved them so.
Where the faint murmurs now dwindling
echo o’er tide and shore."
-A Grave Epitaph in Santa Rosa County, Florida; I wish I could remember the man's name.
Last edited by Omega Vision on Apr 6th, 2015 at 01:57 AM
Dude, how many times do I have to explain this? I don't want Iran to have nukes, but if they really want them and if they think they need them, they'll get them, so we have to take their incentive away.
As for the chants, I think I should explain to you the concept of political rhetoric and how it's different from an actual statement of intent.
Tell me the alternative. Explain on behalf of Netanyahu and all the other naysayers what you would have done in Obama's position.
__________________
“Where the longleaf pines are whispering
to him who loved them so.
Where the faint murmurs now dwindling
echo o’er tide and shore."
-A Grave Epitaph in Santa Rosa County, Florida; I wish I could remember the man's name.
I agree, TI. OV and others can't see that Iran doesn't care much about their own destruction as long as they can take Israel with them. In their minds, destroying Israel is their god's commandment and doing so they will be rewarded with eternal life. They're fanatics who don't care about mutual destruction. The fact that Israel has nukes would be no deterrent to them whatsoever.
Allowing even the slightest chance of Iran having a single nuke is way too dangerous.
__________________ Darwin's theory of evolution is the great white elephant of contemporary thought. It is large, completely useless, and the object of superstitious awe.-Dr. David Berlinski, Philosophy
Most people believe Evolution not because they themselves are dumb, but cause they trust the "experts" who are feeding them evolutionary fast food, and so they don't bother questioning whether or not it's true.
Thank you for this nuanced understanding of Iran that shows your considerable scholarship on the subject.
Perhaps you'd like to begin drafting the plans for an invasion of Iran, as that's the only way you can remove all chance of them getting a bomb. It will only take...oh I don't know, half a million soldiers, at least. Israel probably won't even chip in.
__________________
“Where the longleaf pines are whispering
to him who loved them so.
Where the faint murmurs now dwindling
echo o’er tide and shore."
-A Grave Epitaph in Santa Rosa County, Florida; I wish I could remember the man's name.
Now because of the sanctions we have leverage we didn't before.
Increase the sanctions? Now you're just saying things that sound plausible without knowing what they really mean. There's not much more the US and its allies can do to Iran. We could block shipment of things like medicine and spare plane parts (needed to repair Iran's aging commercial airline fleet), but what's that really going to do but make the Iranian people hate us more?
What do you mean "increase international support?"
Striking their facilities, if Israel is even capable of it (Iran is a big country, they have lots of facilities, and Israel has never attempted such a long range mission against a prepared opponent) would only slow the Iranians down and increase their resolve. If the Israelis believed this was a credible option, they'd have done it.
America has supported terrorism too in the past, but you'd say we're trustworthy, wouldn't you?
__________________
“Where the longleaf pines are whispering
to him who loved them so.
Where the faint murmurs now dwindling
echo o’er tide and shore."
-A Grave Epitaph in Santa Rosa County, Florida; I wish I could remember the man's name.
KMC Community Forums
Apr 5th, 2015 07:29 PM
