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Digi
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Originally posted by leonidas
i don't see strange or fate as trans guys. both have some uber showings but not enough to put them in trans imo. but yeah, the speed lending is gimmicky which is about the only way to beat the 4 carv chose.

Possibly Genis, and the forum has the better versions of Fate at Trans. So there's a case to be made that you're a touch over. However, I do think you're on the right track. And, in a non-prepped scenario, possibly the only track.

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Talisman
Snowbird
Captain Comet (pre 52)
Mantis (New God - pre 52)

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KM is close imo.

Not sure how forum Talisman is herald but whatever.

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That -K-M- sure does know his stuff.

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or snowbird for that matter. to compete with them she'd need to go all trans-transformation if she was given the chance to do so. anyway, i'd take classic fate and strange over talisman and snowbird for magic. mantis is the drainer but not sure what tier he'd be in overall.

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or snowbird for that matter. to compete with them she'd need to go all trans-transformation if she was given the chance to do so. anyway, i'd take classic fate and strange over talisman and snowbird for magic. mantis is the drainer but not sure what tier he'd be in overall.

Naaaa base form she hanged with wendigo and hercules physically AND she has her own God blast. Muhahahaha

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Talisman
Snowbird
Captain Comet (pre 52)
Mantis (New God - pre 52)

Superman alone can take down both Mantis and Comet. Leaving Talisman and Snowbird to take on all three? Not a good combination.

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mantis was more for silver surfer (or thor) and comet was for Nate (or thor). Funny thing is I thought it said supergirl not superman. Whoops

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abhilegend
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Surfer would beat Mantis solidly, just like Nate would beat Comet.

erm

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Thinking something like...

Flash
Cassandra Nova
Dr. Strange (classic)
Baron Zemo w/ Moonstones

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Thinking something like...

Flash
Cassandra Nova
Dr. Strange (classic)
Baron Zemo w/ Moonstones

Zemo and Nova aren't heralds though. Flash is too much of a glass canon and even a weaker version of Surfer has beaten strange who was a huge glass canon.

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Surfer would beat Mantis solidly, just like Nate would beat Comet.

Strongly disagree. Any cosmic energy he threw at Mantis he would absorb. He has owned many heralds include Fate (x2), Hal Jordan (x2), Wonder Woman, Martian manhunter, etc

Concerning Nate, this shaman Nate?

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Strongly disagree. Any cosmic energy he threw at Mantis he would absorb. He has owned many heralds include Fate (x2), Hal Jordan (x2), Wonder Woman, Martian manhunter, etc

Concerning Nate, this shaman Nate?

That's why he was killed by Orion by energy blasts or twoshotted by a young Superman? When did he beat Diana?

Even non shaman Nate is above Comet.

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That's why he was killed by Orion by energy blasts or twoshotted by a young Superman? When did he beat Diana?

Even non shaman Nate is above Comet.

When was he killed by Orion? Same with superman? His fight with Wonder Woman was her, Hal and fate against mantis in Super Powers #3 [Vol.2]

Disagree with that as well erm

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Flash + 3 herals = win

dr fate > Herald class

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When was he killed by Orion? Same with superman? His fight with Wonder Woman was her, Hal and fate against mantis in Super Powers #3 [Vol.2]

Disagree with that as well

Orion vaporized him in New Gods 5. Superman koed him in two hits in Superman Confidential.

Super Powers isn't canon though. That's also PC Wonder Woman who wasn't that impressive.

Well, why?

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dr fate > Herald class

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Orion vaporized him in New Gods 5. Superman koed him in two hits in Superman Confidential.

Super Powers isn't canon though. That's also PC Wonder Woman who wasn't that impressive.

Well, why?

No he didn't. He teleported out and orion was losing until he went into a berserker rage when mantis nearly killed forager. In fact Orion was temp ko'ed and Forager saved him. With superman he was low on energy

Super powers was canon and was referenced in the who's who directory.

Because they have comparable stats and showings and comet has abilities nate doesn't have

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Apr 4th, 2015 05:28 PM

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Zemo and Nova aren't heralds though. Flash is too much of a glass canon and even a weaker version of Surfer has beaten strange who was a huge glass canon.

Zemo and Nova were both ranked as heralds.

EDIT: Obviously the Tiers thread wasn't perfect, but I don't think that either character is obviously Trans tier.

Flash and Strange both have glass cannon showings, but also each have the necessary power displays to win against any of these 4.

It's not a perfect combo, but I think it could work...