lets say he was. lets say he bitchslapped the cop into next tuesday and ran. he was unarmed and shot in the back while fleeing. the cop was in the wrong. end of story.
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it's implied when people suggest the need for more context beyond the simple fact in order to make a judgement.
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how considerate of you star to quote one of the comments in question.
so as you can see, mindset, you were mistaken.
you're alright star. thanks bro.
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Anyone who does something like that (bitchslaps) to a cop is a menace to society. People like that have no respect for rules or laws and won't hesitate to hurt someone to get what they want. If something like that happened and the officer warned the guy to stop or else he'd shoot and the guy just kept running then yeah, it was justified alright.
That's not what happened in this case though. The officer wasn't hurt as far as I know and he gave no warning to the guy to stop before shooting him. Hopefully, the officer will be spending a long time behind bars for second degree murder but to say that the victim wasn't partially to blame for what happened is ridiculous. You don't struggle with a cop. You don't badmouth him. You do what the Hell he says. You sure as Hell aren't suppose to try running from him. That's common friggin sense that parents should instill into their children as early as possible. Guess this guys parents failed to teach him to respect those in authority and now he's dead as a result.
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Last edited by Star428 on Apr 11th, 2015 at 12:43 AM
The officer was not in danger of losing his own life when the man ran from him so it was not justified. Our officers are not judges and/or juries. They have a duty to protect all life, including the ones of know criminals/menaces of societies.
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I watched the show cops the other night. Some guy with his girl in the car ran from police. Somehow (lol drunk) ran off the road into a tree. He and the girl were thrown from the car and lived. He was barely able to walk and just crawled as the police tasered him 5-6 times and kicked and punched him in the face I don't know how many times. He was absolutely no threat. My friend was telling me that if anyone runs and doesn't surrender right away they're subjected to anything the arresting officer feels fit. Hoping that's not true
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This is a slippery slope though. I'm not saying white people have to worry, persay. However, if these cops and their behavior is left unchecked it's really not going to be any one race that needs to worry about cops, but ALL of them. You start to think you can get away with shooting people of color, then you begin to think..hey why not anyone who pisses me off?
I just think this day and age the mindset of "this can never happen to me" in regards to anything is a dangerous one to have.
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It does. Pretend he is wanted for multiple violent murders and at least a few were caught on camera (meaning, there's no such thing as reasonable doubt that "this is the guy").
"I'm going to go kill your family as soon as I get free. Your mother, your father, your wife, and your daughter. Here are their addresses. *Gives addresses* I have guns stashed near their addresses. If I can't get to them, I will call someone to kill them when I get free."
Then he gets away form the tasing and starts running.
In this case, yes. He seems like a small-peanuts poor guy (may have committed in his past but nothing serious).
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Here's your problem: it is unreasonable and barbaric for you to hold an idea like this.
No unarmed citizen should ever expect to get shot in the back while running away from law-enforcement. Ever. In fact, in almost all citizen-police encounters, a citizen should be able to assume that their life will remain intact after the confrontation. Here's what you're missing from your understanding, most especially, so pay attention: EVEN IF YOU ARE ARMED AND VIOLENT, AN ENCOUNTER WITH POLICE DOES NOT NEED TO RESULT IN THE LOSS OF [any] LIFE.
Obviously, the optimal/best outcome is no one loses their life and an attacker or would-be-violent-offender is peacefully subdued. That should be the goal of any law-enforcement.
In that situation you would [should?] chase him then- that's what the police are trained to do. If he was armed it'd be a different story, but he wasn't.
edit- Actually, I think we're on the same wavelength.
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The first 5 times I watched that gif, I was creeped out. That's the kind of shit you see on corrupt cop movies. Stuff of fantasy. I couldn't believe what I was seeing. If it is what it it appears to be...all my rage...all of it.
Possibly but in that case where it was proven that the perp was definitely confirmed to be violent, is homicidal, and had a history of following through on threats, the cop may be justified in a criminal court for shooting him as he ran (meaning, he wouldn't lose his job or serve time). Meaning, he may be viewed as exercising reasonable force against a known homicidal violent criminal.
This is not the case at all, here. I think the book should be thrown at this criminal (former cop).
Your friend isn't technically wrong, if an officer "feels" threatened they can use "up to" lethal force. They have to be able to defend their actions later though.
I do think you should never expect to get shot in the back, but I also think you should never run from the cops. It doesn't mean what the cop did was right, but don't give these creeps an excuse to shoot you.
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