Yes, but the evidence is so heavily against the officer that you could argue that we're beyond reasonable doubt.
And once again, I very much doubt you'd be this determined to wait on additional evidence if we were talking about the officer's murder and examining Walter Scott's culpability.
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Where the faint murmurs now dwindling
echo o’er tide and shore."
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The fact of the matter is that there are an ever increasing number of bad cops these days, and it isn't a national problem, but a universal one.
Notwithstanding this particular case, of which I know little about, the problem seems to be that cops are seemingly recruited without any attempt to assess them with a psych evaluation.
There isn't anyone among us that doesn't know that to put a badge, a gun and a uniform on some people can bring out the worst kind of mindset. Some of them become pissed with power, and turn overnight, into little Hitlers. It's a common human trait in many; moreover, it happens in many corporate or authoritative communities.
The frightening thing about it all is that the phenomenon is becoming ever more commonplace, and one simply has to wonder why, and/or if there is any vested rhyme or reason to these organizations 'enforcing' their criteria onto Joe and Jane Public; why some of them believe that they are above the law, and why are they getting away with so much.
I read about a guy that served 27 years for a crime that DNA tests recently proved him to be innocent of. He's certainly not the first by a long shot, and I doubt he will be the last.
Race aside (I don't care if someone is sky blue pink with yellow dots), we are all, each and every one of us, entitled to question what is becoming more and more a police state.
If we're going to go down that road, we might just as well abolish courts, lawyers, judges and the legal system. Not that the legal system isn't desperately in need of a thorough overhaul. Lawyers, both defense and prosecutors are in it for the win, and justice comes way down the listing in their criteria's.
Evidence, from both sides, is often withheld, and a lot of nifty verbal footplay is utilized.
It's a farce, and very, very worrying...
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Excellent post, Laurie. I'm glad not everyone on this website afterall is so blind and naïve to not be able to see that we're becoming more and more like a police state.
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I don't think the "police state" future is a very likely one. If anything, most of the recent incidents have been cases of corrupt/racist local police forces abusing their power. If anything, when the Federal government intervenes it often cleans up the local police forces and puts them on notice.
And it is very much a racial/class issue. People like me (educated, white middle class) don't often become victims of police abuse. It would be incredibly irregular if my civil liberties were ignored and I was brutalized by police just for walking around and "looking suspicious" as often happens to poor and black (but especially poor black) people.
Saying "oh well, police are just out of control, race isn't really that important" is a platitude that ignores that the recent spate of police abuses is a symptom of two separate problems that have converged: one, the recent militarization of police, and two, America's poor relationship with its black populace that only got a little better after the Civil Rights era. To solve the first problem, we need to reform the police on a national scale. For the second, we need to change how the nation views race and race relations and stop acting as if we are really equal. We're not, but we should be.
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“Where the longleaf pines are whispering
to him who loved them so.
Where the faint murmurs now dwindling
echo o’er tide and shore."
-A Grave Epitaph in Santa Rosa County, Florida; I wish I could remember the man's name.
__________________ Darwin's theory of evolution is the great white elephant of contemporary thought. It is large, completely useless, and the object of superstitious awe.-Dr. David Berlinski, Philosophy
Most people believe Evolution not because they themselves are dumb, but cause they trust the "experts" who are feeding them evolutionary fast food, and so they don't bother questioning whether or not it's true.
Any objective analysis shows that police corruption is going down, not up. This sort of thing used to happen all the time and nobody batted an eyelid. Even in somewhere like LA, where the police have a particularly bad rep, it is as nothing to the massive and endemic corruption it had through the first six decades of the 20th century; even after prohibition, the LA police chief felt secure in publicly instructing his officers to shoot dead communists as anti-Americans had no constitutional rights. The trend is definitely downwards; people don't stand for it any more. It's not getting more commonplace- it just gets exposed now.
Ditto political corruption. The recent expenses scandal in the UK was about the MPs using expenses to pay for fancy gardening work or extra home leases. It;s good they are held to high account but when you look at corruption down the ages, that's trifling stuff.
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In police states the population is always rattling on other citizens, they quickly add to the corruption. There is no us and them when it comes to authority, if you really believe there is a police state, you should watch for your neighbors and stop posting compromising opinions in a public website.
Firstly, I don't have neighbors; the nearest to me is a quarter of a mile down the lane; and secondly how on earth is stating facts as they are compromising opinions on a public website.
Do tell, is this a forum for all opinions, or just yours?
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It only applies to people who think they live in a police state and are being oppressed. If you consider yourself to live in a community where rights are respected and the militarization of local authorities isn't a problem be my guest and post whatever you want.
What does? The fact of the matter is that in many area's of the western world (not that other area's are any better) the police are not there as Judge, Jury or Executioners. They're there to uphold the law, protect the people they serve and whom pay their wages, and to keep the peace. Since when was it written that they could use unnecessary violence against any citizen?
There are good cops, no-one is denying that, but there are also a hell of a lot of bad cops whom believe that they are untouchable, and invincible. And whether you like it or not, there are also cops whom are blatantly racist. That's a fact!
I am white and hold a dual nationality passport. My rights are respected, mostly; I have to admit that I have never had a run in with any law enforcement officer, never been to court; however, one would have to be blind deaf and dumb not to see and hear what is going on in the real world.
Moreover, thank you for believing that you can invite me to post whatever I want to, but you see, it was quite unnecessary. I don't need your permission. I run two of my own forum sites, and am in the process of opening up a third.
I've never been pulled up for any post that I have made, anywhere on the net (and I am a member of quite a few others forums). I'm polite, and don't use offensive language, or bully people. So, I don't think I need your permission to post, and trust me, I won't lose one nano-second of sleep over your opinion of me. You don't know me.
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Don't piss me off, I'm having difficulties finding new places to hide the bodies...
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indeed, justice at last. 20 years may seem a tad lenient, but in this context it's surreal. you really don't see hard-time like this handed to police who commit murder. cellphone cameras are changing our society and thank f*ck for that.
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Well that is good news. They all need to be given these cams. Take the money they get from red light cameras and spend it on that.
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