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Many will see this as utter blasphemy, but Wilt and Russell aren't even in my top 10.
My only concrete rankings are Jordan at 1, LeBron at 2.
The other 8, in no specific order, are:
Magic
Hakeem
Kareem
Shaq
Bird
Kobe
Duncan
Barkley(A little biased here) but he's the best PF of all time other than Duncan, who is really a center. Malone was great too but had one of the best point guards of all time getting him plenty of easy buckets, whereas Charles pretty much carried his team the vast majority of his career.
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Last edited by Trocity on Nov 9th, 2016 at 06:27 AM
Duncan, Malone, and KG are all undoubtedly better than Barkley IMO. They're all solidly superior as defenders, and they're all more accomplished than he is.
Undoubtedly is a strong word my friend. Duncan is more accomplished, hell he is the most accomplished PF in history. Malone? maybe. KG, meh. I definitely won't pick KG over Barkley or Duncan or Malone.
I don't have to wait, lal. If I'm starting a team, I'd take LeBron over any other players in NBA history. That, to me is what makes someone a G.O.A.T.
James' legacy will most likely never be better than MJ's for a lot of reasons, some completely out of his hands, but his talent and sheer ability as player is.
LeBron isn't the most accomplished, or greatest but in terms of overall player value he is the best. With an equally talented team, I believe he gives my team a better chance to win than any player ever. That is how I define the G.O.A.T. at it's core. Within this context, "greatest" and "best" are not synonymous terms.
In terms of winning championships for my franchise, I'm absolutely starting with Jordan. Once he had that piece that he needed, (Scottie,) the Bulls were absolutely unstoppable. Conversely, 'Bron with his pieces epically choked against the Mavs, and got shellacked in the 2014 Finals. Your best bet to winning in the playoffs once you've assembled the right pieces is Jordan.
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I'm absolutely not giving you 2014, lmao. LeBron did all anyone possibly could to win, but the Spurs was just a far and away superior team. Even a 20 point 1 quarter couldn'y stop his team from getting blown out in game 5. Wade was ridiculously washed up, and Bosh was at the tail end of being the player he was. MJ's team was better than every team they beat, that was further complimented by chocking superstars on the other side. I wouldn't say last year's CLE was better than GS, yet LeBron stilled galvanized his "troops" and lead them to victory.
And given that MJ's teams were better than every team they beat, they never failed to deliver. No 7 games Finals series. Lebron choked hard in 2011, and almost lost the 2013 NBA Finals with a superior team as well. I'll give you that the Spurs were better in 2014, but I still doubt Jordan would have ever let such a historically lopsided series occur. Jordan's regular season stats, playoff stats, accolades, etc are all superior to Lebron's. Lebron can do more with less, but in terms of actually winning the chip, no one does as well as Jordan in terms of results or statistics. I'll give you that the 2016 Finals are a greater accomplishment than anything Jordan ever did, but it takes more than one year to surmount MJ.
Tell you what: if these Cavs beat these Warriors in the Finals, Lebron is 50/50 for me in terms of being the GOAT.
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