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They both amplify the individual to a specific degree. The difference is that kaioken in theory could stack on things such as super saiyan.

Hold on a second. Doesnt kaioken x2 double the users power? and x3 triples their power and so on. If that is true x2 kaioken in super saiyan would equal ssj2.

Probably why kaioken does not exist anymore ha.


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Can the Kaioken get more powerful than the Super Saiyan though depending on the amount of power that is being applied?


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Well, assuming that SSJ1 is 50x, and the highest shown Kaioken was in GT, which was 100x.

Yes, Kaioken can be more powerful.


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Kaioken was never used in GT.


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SSJ4 Gogeta used Kaioken x100 against Omega Shenron.


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No, he didn't.


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Ah, Sorry mate, I got 100x Kaioken confused with x100 Big Bang Kamehameha.

Although it does say on the DB wiki that Goku used Kaioken x100 to rip through Lord Slug's chest.


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Although it does say on the DB wiki that Goku used Kaioken x100 to rip through Lord Slug's chest.
Yeah, that bit of info was never included in the film itself. It was mentioned in an issue of Shonen Jump which stated that Goku used "Kaioken Hyakubai", which roughly translates to "Kaioken x100"(Hyaku=100.)

Regardless, films and anime filler are non-canon, and do not reflect on the Z Fighters' canonical powersets at all. For example, the films/filler also had Goku using a Super Kaioken, absorbing a Genki Dama, actively fighting whilst using IT, using a Dragon Fist, etc.--none of which he's displayed in canon.


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Yeah, but the point was that he still used it.

Even if it was from GT, it was still gonna be non-canon.


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