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That's why I hate pure comic fan

Calm down you crazy **** =D!
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I mean Tzeentch always win before the battle begin. And is able to realize any impossible feat via sheming (but he have to want to do that that's why he didn't blew up the entire universe)
+Tzeentch is at home. He have everything at his disposal even if Mr Mxy was stronger like Malal was.... He is at home he is not alone + tzeetch have been able to manipulate his own ennemies.

Tzeetch is a total troll that carry a total unfair X factor ---> instant victory (except if you are interresting and culd be use as a pupet for great things,
or be the entire ****ing precursors race that surpass tzeentch in term of trolling if Tzeentch wasn't behind them. And they are the only one who accomplish that feat...)

And imagine if tzeentch propose him bo be turned into a deamon in echange of Revenhc over superman etc.... And tzeetch is a really good lier...

Or even for Galactus there is no way for Galactus since tzeentch have a lot of powerfull machines and artifacts and a lot of minion..

He can easly trap him by using his minion augmented by an artifact to paralize him and let him watch die slowly... Since tzeentch is higly cappble of using such plan with great success...


Stomp thread bro.

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Tzeentch isn't the only troll it seems.

Where are they fighting again? I forgot


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Did we ever get any word on where this fight is taking place?


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If they fight in the 5d dimension then Mxy should be able to draw on the ambient energy there.


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It's in the Warp. Which is kinda like the Negative Zone or Dark force Dimension or Mephisto's realm. It's an alternate dimension/reality that exists within/alongside the main one. Inside it Tzeentch is more powerful and stuff. Basically he tried to five him a very much needed advantage. Still not enough for Mxy though.

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Tzeentch isn't the only troll it seems.

Where are they fighting again? I forgot


Warp.

Warp is in fact a big fock to Einstein's physic laws. And shroninger cat's home.

It's also connected to the omniverse and act like a mirror.. A daemonic mirror.

It is insaly big and incomprehensible.... It's like hell chuck norris power !


Still Tzeentch is the more creative.

Mr Mxy is High 2-A and Tzeentch 1-C within the warp so...
+Tzeentch is also cappble of eating power of his opponent.


Ha I'd love to make a Slaanesh V.S Kratos thread....

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Originally posted by krisblaze
Tzeentch isn't the only troll it seems.

Where are they fighting again? I forgot


Warp.

Warp is in fact a big fock to Einstein's physic laws. And shroninger cat's home.

It's also connected to the omniverse and act like a mirror.. A daemonic mirror.

It is insaly big and incomprehensible.... It's like hell chuck norris power !


Still Tzeentch is the more creative.

Mr Mxy is High 2-A and Tzeentch 1-C within the warp so...
+Tzeentch is also cappble of eating power of his opponent.
He control the mind of every entities his in own domain... So... Yhea Mr Mxy will ask Tzeentch to write his name in a very complex way, with letters taht exist in different dimensions and it will appears in the Crystal labirynthe... Tzeentch maze..


Ha I'd love to make a Slaanesh V.S Kratos thread....

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Tzeentch trick uour deer imp to reveal his true name.... And became even more trolly !!!
Or he convince him that he will do greater things with the imp power, in echange he will Revenge himover supper man by pure trolling Sup...

Or summon a really realistic illusion of superman prime furious against him...

Tzeentch is a master manipulator there is billions of way for him to win !!! Tzeentch send back Mr Mxy in a loop where he trick the imp in different way each time...

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Hm. Can you explain with math how the warp works so we can quantify it?

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Quantify it............ Warhammmer is about massive size, massiv armies, massivs guns, and the most massiv things that exist is chaos, Nrugles chauldron is big enough to place entire galaxies in in, and it's a small part of Nurgle garden teh weakest god of chaos...
How it's working...............
Many mortal die or go insane by trying to understand how the immmaterium work....
Webay warp immaterium materium....

In warp space there is no time, no distances, only a constantly flowing stream of immaterium. (And we are not even talking about Tzeetch impossible forteress...)

Beyond the boundaries of physical space, unrestricted by time or casuality, there is a dimension utterly incomprehensible to mortal minds.

The sheer mind-boggling impossibiliry of the Warp defies

explanation, and those who attempt to delve further into

understanding its ways inevitably slip into madness. Of the

little that is known is that Warp space does not conform to the

laws of physics as we know them.
It's completly inneffable....

Basicly Ynnead god of death and paradox, destroy everythings, kill every god except one :
Tzeentch.
Tzeentch via complex and really untangible stuff, reloop the time right at the begining (it explain the shroninger chaos thingy)

And since he superpose himself with the older Tzeentch and keep his memories and knowledge intact, combined with the shroninger thing, it give him his farsight abilities..

tzeentch restart the sheme and begin to experience enw things...

Tzeetnch is also the god of hope ambition etc, and lies, so the all eldar prophecy about Ynnead was Tzeentch lie to allow him make his story endless....


For more info :
http://forums.spacebattles.com/thre....235176/page-20
http://forums.spacebattles.com/thre...-thread.235176/

The warp is the multi/omniverse(or is connected to them)

"The forms the live-things called Chaos, in their limited little ways of perceiving the omni-verse, swarmed and thrived in this infinite ocean of mind and emotion. T

“A miss indicates that the missile has left Warpspace at the wrong point – and this could be anywhere in any of the million universes.”

So yhea Connected tpo the omniverse checked.

Thoughts can destroy or create thousands of universes in the warp

"Here in the Great Ocean, he could be whatever he wanted to be; nothing was forbidden and anything was possible.

Worlds flashed past him as he hurtled through the swelling tides of colour, light and dimensions without name. The roiling chaos of the aether was a playground for titanic forces, where entire universes could be created and destroyed with a random thought. How many trillions of potential lives were birthed and snuffed out just by thinking such things?"

Pg.712 A Thousand Sons

Chaos is older than time

Checked

Schrodinger's Slaanesh/Chaos

That is how events are viewed from the chronology of the material universe. In the Warp, things are different, for the Immaterium is not bound by linear time, and events do not occur in a strict sequence of cause then effect. As his rival gods reckon it, Slannesh has always existed in the Warp, and yet has never existed at all

-Codex: Chaos Daemons 6th Edition pg. 16

That is how events are viewed from the chronology of the real universe; in the Warp, things are different. The Realm of Chaos has no true time, and events do not occur in a strict sequence of cuase then effect. In essence, Slaanesh has always exsted in the Warp, and yet had never existed.

The Realm of Chaos, also known as the Warp, the Immaterium or Warpspace, is a dimension parallel to our own, a universe devoid of matter and life, without laws of time and space.

The Empy holding reality against Chaos consuming the universe throughout space time.

"His immense psychic powers envelop and protect Mankind across the entire galaxy. His consciousness wanders through Warp space, warring against the Daemons that inhabit it, keeping closed the doors between this world and the next.

If the Emperor fails then the Daemons of Chaos will flood into the galaxy. Every living human will become a gateway for the destruction of Mankind and the stuff of Warp space will submerge the galaxy. There will be no physical matter. No space. No time. Only Chaos."

-Warhammer 40k 5th Edition rulebook, pg.101

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Where are they warping to?


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zbaaaaaf it's not star trek warp you dumb shit.....

They are in the immaterium the warp, the thing that replace the webway.

+Within the warp there is tthe 4 gods of chaos Tzeentch clearly stomp cince eh can use them !


One garden of Nurgle :
The Garden of Nurgle
The Garden of Nurgle

The Garden of Nurgle is Nurgle's realm within the Warp. This unwholesome realm is home to every pox and affliction imaginable and is alive with the stench of rot. This 'garden' is not a barren wasteland, but rather a macabre paradise of death and pestilence. A thick sheet of buzzing swarms of black, furry flies litter the sky, and twisted, rotten boughs entangled with grasping vines cover the mouldering ground, beneath an insect-ravaged canopy of leaves. Defiled fungi both plain and extraordinary break through the leaf-strewn mulch of the forest floor, puffing out vile clouds of spores. Muddy rivers slither across the bloated landscape. Nurgle's Mansion of rotted timbers and broken walls resides at the heart of the garden; decrepit and ancient, yet eternally strong at its foundations. It is within these tumbling walls that Nurgle toils at his cauldron, a receptacle vast enough to contain all the oceans of the worlds of the galaxy.

Nurgle keeps his companion Isha trapped in a cage in the garden of Nurgle, in the corner of a room where he keeps the cauldron in which he creates all of his plagues. Being a goddess of healing, Isha can cure herself of any of Nurgle's diseases. Nurgle takes advantage of this by force-feeding her his latest creation and sees how long it takes the goddess to overcome its effects. If he is pleased, he releases it upon some unsuspecting world, if not, he starts over, working at his cauldron until he has something new to give to his 'companion'. Whilst he is busy working though, Isha takes advantage of his distraction to instruct mortals on how to rid themselves of Nurgle's poxes.

When Nurgle's power waxes, the Garden blooms, encroaching on the lands of the other Chaos Gods. Nurgle's enemies would fight back, and the Plaguebearers would take up arms to defend it. Although the Garden will recede again, it would still have fed deeply on the essence of those who have fallen in such wars, and will lie in gestate peace until it is ready to bloom again. [3]

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The Maze of Tzeentch
The Maze of Tzeentch[Needs Citation]

The Maze of Tzeentch, also known as the Crystal Labyrinth, is Tzeentch's realm within the Warp. This maze is woven from the raw fabric of magic, threaded upon deceit and conspiracy. Of all the landscapes of the Warp, this domain is by far the most bizarre and incomprehensible, for its crystalline structures force travelers to view all nine dimensions simultaneously. This effect not only distorts the senses of any who intrude, but will also pulls apart their purpose and aspirations and turns them to insanity and despair. Unlike the realms of the other Gods of Chaos, it is not defended by Daemonic warriors, allowing instead for any intruder to become inevitably lost within its confines.[9]

Interchanging, shifting avenues made of pure crystals of every colour crisscross Tzeentch's realm. Hidden pathways built from lies and schemes lead out from the maze and infiltrate the dominions of other gods, binding together the fractious Realms of Chaos. The maze itself has no daemonic defenders. Its own illusory passages are enough of a barrier to any intruder not possessed of the strongest mind imaginable[Needs Citation]. Its glittering corridors reflect not only light but also hope, misery, dreams and nightmares. The labyrinth does not merely reflect but also distorts, pulling apart hope and purpose turning them into insanity and despair. Driven by Tzeentch's unconscious schemes, the labyrinth constantly moves and rearranges. Those lost within the maze's reaches will wander for eternity with their minds shattered, their dreams broken upon the wheel of their own failed ambition[Needs Citation].

At the centre of the maze, hidden from those who have not the insane insight to find it, stands the Impossible Fortress. The architecture of the bastion is constantly replaced by new and ever more maddening spires, gates and walls. doors and other entrance points yawn open like starving mouths, before clamping for eternity moments later, barring all access. Within the Fortress time and space does not exist at all and gravity shifts and changes, or disappears all together. Lights of every colour, some even unknown in the real universe, springs from the shifting walls. For mortals, who are so locked in their physical ways, the fortress is impenetrable. Men are driven insane, while their bodies might implode or be pulled apart by the forces unleashed by Tzeentch's passing thoughts. Even immortal daemons cannot easily endure the twisted horror of the Impossible Fortress and only the Lords of Change can safely navigate its corridors, and tread the secret paths that lead to the inner sanctum of the fortress, the Hidden Library, where Tzeentch, the puppet master himself resides, eternally plotting.[1]

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The Fortress of Khorne
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The Fortress of Khorne is Khorne's realm within the Warp. It is a monument to fury and bloodshed, and is built upon foundations of murder and conflict. This blood-soaked realm echoes constantly with Khorne's bellows and the clash of weapons. At the centre of this mighty fortress lies the Brass Citadel, where Khorne's mighty throne resides. He sits atop a mountain of skulls, those slain in his name. A great fire pit lights Khorne's gloomy chamber, the dark flames consume the souls of cowards who have fled from battle. Inside the Fortress lays the foundries of Khorne, manned by souls of warriors who died in their sleep and thus forever shamed by the Blood God. Around the citadel flows a moat, and is filled not with water, but with the boiling blood of those who have lost their lives to war. Beyond this moat lies league upon league of cracked land, littered with the ravaged bones of those fallen in battle. A mighty crevasse splits the wasteland in two, a canyon many miles long and bottomless.[17] The fortress is also said to contain pens of Juggernauts and a complex of battlements equipped with great infernal cannons.[17]

It is said that Khorne himself was once consumed by such rage that he took up his sword and smote the ground, splitting it asunder for eternity. This fell sword is known by many names including 'Warmaker' and the 'End of All Things', and is capable of laying waste to worlds with a single blow.[2]

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The Palace of Slaanesh
The Palace of Slaanesh[17]

The Palace of Slaanesh is Slaanesh's realm within the Warp. Those that dare his realm risk becoming trapped in its warped delights for eternity. The Dark Prince's realm is divided into six domains, arranged in concentric rings about the Palace of Pleasure. The palace itself can only be reached by passing through all six domains. The circle of Avidity plays upon the interloper's greed. The circle of Gluttony is next; it plays upon the intruders desire for lavish foods and wines. The third circle is the circle of Carnality, where the perfect desires of the heart reside; testing to the extreme the individuals desires. The fourth circle is the circle of Paramountcy, where the traveller is greeted by roars of adulation, here the intruder is tempted with absolute power over others. The penultimate circle is the circle of Vainglory. The traveller is presented with his ideal self-image, and if he feels but an ounce of pride, for eternity will this circle be his prison. The last circle is the most perilous, it is a heavenly place, within which resides a seemingly perfect environment. Every second that passes fills the intruder with bliss, but to rest and enjoy the pleasure for a single moment results in falling into a coma, and eventually dying in idle bliss. One may walk the circles for centuries, but cannot for a second give into his ultimate desires for he will fall. If one is able to successfully pass through the circles he comes before the palace and Slaanesh himself. It is impossible for mortals to look upon the god without instantly losing their soul, for all who see it become willing slaves to every whim of the Dark Prince.[4]

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The Warp is a psychic dimension parallel to real space. It is known by many names: Warpspace, the Immaterium, the Empyrean, the Ether, the Sea of Souls, and also as the Realm of Chaos.

Warpspace is a dimension of random energy known as Chaos. It is the domain of the Gods of Chaos. The Warp is without form and with its own fluid laws of time and space. Its energies are in constant turmoil, subject to endless disturbances.

The common analogy used to describe Warpspace compares the Warp to a vast sea of energy, which is subject to constant movement, currents, undertows, etc. Although with its own reality, Warp and real space do bear a relationship as dimensions parallel to each other. The fact they share this relationship allows a Warp-capable craft to enter the Warp, carried for a time along the Warp flows, until reemerging into real space a distance away from its starting point. The common metaphor used for Warp-jumping compares the Warp to a fast flowing stream. Its motionless banks represent real space. A leaf dropped into the water upstream will be carried along by the currents. This is a useful metaphor in understanding Warpspace, although the Warp is far more complex in its movements than a linear stream. The Warp moves in endlessly unpredictable and convoluted patterns.[3]

The Formless Wastes

The Formless Wastes refer to the rest of the Warp uncontrolled by one of the Chaos Gods. Other powers such as Greater Daemons and Daemon Princes who have become capable of forcing a small influence over their surroundings sometimes create their abodes here. The Wastes are also the home to Furies, grotesque gargoyles forbidden from entering the Chaos Gods' realms. They roam the Wastes searching for new helpless souls of mortals not yet absorbed by the Warp.[2a]

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Hm. Can you enunerate the threats that the Warp can bring against Mxy? I mean how is he even gonna fight him?

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Well since it's within the hell.... There is a lot of things that can be dangerous for him.

Chaos gods tend to absorb other god entities...

It's a 9D dimension... 5D can be understood by a mortal being as I do.....
9D... eer humhum.... A lot of physic law are completly **** up.. It ****ep up most characters abilities, but it's kinda hard to tell what it do...

It's full of really mother ****ing powerfulls daemons, greaters daemons etc...
There is the 4 others chaos gods. And since Tzeentch is a master manipulator I mean the god of amnipulators, and warhammer 40 gods are like greek godds but chucknorris power. Because in 40K everything have to be massive enormous...

Chaos is like shroninger's cat.... I explained and explained it over and over gain...

Cahos corrupts but corrupts really hard. Even fulgrim who is a mother ****ing clone of the god emperor himself, get corrupted....


Tzeentch needn't his power to defeat Mr Mxy.... I mean Tzeentch is a master of Manipulation, trickery, and can play with illusion vision telepathy...

Considery both charcter psychology it will be enough. tzeentch is also the god of hope... Ambition. He got a lot of title including Changer of the Ways, the Master of Fortune, the Great Conspirator and the Architect of Fate, the impossible maker.
It have been mentioned countless times : Tzeentch win before the battle even begin !!!

I think that Mxy echange 50% of his power aginst the power to beat superman via trolling XD.

And accindentaly reveal his secret named and get wrecked !

We are talking morronly enough to give all his power to the Joker !!!

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Sorry, but I can't accept any of your arguments without the appropriate citations.

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