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Dark-Kenshin
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Welp, it looks like the retarded potara retcon made its way into the manga too, damn.
Looking forward to the cockamamie explanation it gives for Krillin being able to hang with SSB Goku. laughing out loud

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Well, for base Goku vs Krillin, at least that's a much more reasonable ordeal. Cause his base in the manga isn't as overpowered as it is in the anime. Same with Trunks being equal to Goku and Vegeta if you take away ssb


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Preview for an upcoming episode detailing Universe 7's surprise backup member.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0c483hltGE

No Monaka? Boo! That was pretty golden though.


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Well, for base Goku vs Krillin, at least that's a much more reasonable ordeal. Cause his base in the manga isn't as overpowered as it is in the anime.


But does it really make a difference?

At the point of Frieza Saga, Goku's base was 40x stronger than Krillin.

We know this gap could only have gotten much, much bigger since.

You only need to be 2x stronger than someone to troll them without effort. Refer to SSJ2 Gohan vs Cell.

Goku's base should already leave plebs like Krillin in awe. Even turning SSJ1 would be going beyond overkill already.


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Looking forward to the cockamamie explanation it gives for Krillin being able to hang with SSB Goku. laughing out loud


I doubt it will happen; the tournament of power arc is supposed to be wildly different in the manga.

Also, Trunks isn't equal to SSJ Goku/Vegeta. They're stronger than SSJ Black, who could beat Trunks in base, and according to Vegeta it would be impossible for Trunks to defeat SSJ Black at his current level.

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But does it really make a difference?

At the point of Frieza Saga, Goku's base was 40x stronger than Krillin.

We know this gap could only have gotten much, much bigger since.

You only need to be 2x stronger than someone to troll them without effort. Refer to SSJ2 Gohan vs Cell.

Goku's base should already leave plebs like Krillin in awe. Even turning SSJ1 would be going beyond overkill already.
I mean, Krillin standing up to a ssb in a beam struggle for any amount of time is just wrong. But in the anime, even knocking base Goku back with a beam just seems implausible. While in the manga it would seem a bit more reasonable to push Goku back with a beam like at the start of the fight.

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Also, Trunks isn't equal to SSJ Goku/Vegeta. They're stronger than SSJ Black, who could beat Trunks in base, and according to Vegeta it would be impossible for Trunks to defeat SSJ Black at his current level.
Goku and Trunks fought in the manga and Goku had to use god form to beat Trunks. So yea, he was pretty much equal to them in ssj1, 2, and 3 forms. Just not in the anime.


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Uh, no. In SSG he one-shotted him so fast he didn't know what happened. I'll repeat myself once more: SSJ Vegeta, who was wrecking SSJ Black, said that Trunks would be no match for him. We know this is true, because Black consistently beat Trunks in his base form. Now I might agree that the whole "Saiyan Beyond God" thing might have been dropped or nerfed in the manga, but Whis's training has definitely made a hugeimpact on their battle power.

In other news, according to the Supreme Kai in the manga, SSB Vegetto might be stronger than Beerus. That said, fused Zamasu was literally blitzing SSB Goku/Vegeta in the manga, so the power scale is probably totally different... take it as you will.


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Well, at least with this fight out, we have a good idea of just how badly a serious Beerus would wreck a SSB.


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Uh, no. In SSG he one-shotted him so fast he didn't know what happened. I'll repeat myself once more: SSJ Vegeta, who was wrecking SSJ Black, said that Trunks would be no match for him. We know this is true, because Black consistently beat Trunks in his base form. Now I might agree that the whole "Saiyan Beyond God" thing might have been dropped or nerfed in the manga, but Whis's training has definitely made a hugeimpact on their battle power.

In other news, according to the Supreme Kai in the manga, SSB Vegetto might be stronger than Beerus. That said, fused Zamasu was literally blitzing SSB Goku/Vegeta in the manga, so the power scale is probably totally different... take it as you will.


Vegeta called Goku a "dirty cheater" for using Blue against Trunks. laughing


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Vegeta called Goku a "dirty cheater" for using Blue against Trunks. laughing


He didn't use blue, he used god. You can tell from the auras.

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Uh, no. In SSG he one-shotted him so fast he didn't know what happened. I'll repeat myself once more: SSJ Vegeta, who was wrecking SSJ Black, said that Trunks would be no match for him. We know this is true, because Black consistently beat Trunks in his base form. Now I might agree that the whole "Saiyan Beyond God" thing might have been dropped or nerfed in the manga, but Whis's training has definitely made a hugeimpact on their battle power.

In other news, according to the Supreme Kai in the manga, SSB Vegetto might be stronger than Beerus. That said, fused Zamasu was literally blitzing SSB Goku/Vegeta in the manga, so the power scale is probably totally different... take it as you will.


Zamasu Arc was clearly diiferent from the anime...what happened between Fused Zamasu and SSB Vegetto?

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Vegetto beats on Merged Zamasu, and unfuses. Like.. pretty much the anime. Haha


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Eh, it's pretty different. Vegetto actually beats on him way harder, but this version has Zamasu keeping his perfect regen.


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Eh, it's pretty different. Vegetto actually beats on him way harder, but this version has Zamasu keeping his perfect regen.


So Vegito couldn't hurt him and then he unfuses?

I haven't read this chapter with Fused Zamasu and SSB Vegito, but overall I prefer anime much more than manga. Black was also pussy in manga. Anime Hit also > manga Hit.

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That was a ridiculously short fusion time. Although it makes for a good reason as to why Goku and Vegeta can't just fuse and beat the hell out of Beerus, I still don't like the recton.


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They should have fusion danced, that would have made things better.

Also force choke by zamasu.. haha


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Whether it's potara or the silly dance, it's been established that time limit grows shorter and shorter the stronger the fusion is, making it nigh useless by this point.

Compared to those like NewGuy whose mostly for the manga differences and others like Inedian whose more for the anime differences (at least as far as like the Zamasu arc and Hit's level of power), I seem to be somewhere in the middle ground...


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I watch the anime, cause it's weekly. I prefer the manga though. The art, and I like the changes in the manga. Also (so far) no kaioken ssb...which I like.


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