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Inedian
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Originally posted by cdtm
Berserk Kale sent Blue running into a panic, and tanked a Kamehameha.

Controlled Kale struggled with Red.


And exhausted SSB Goku was too much for base Kefla.

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While a fresh Blue was no match for Berserk Kale.

That just proves Kale > Kefla.


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While a fresh Blue was no match for Berserk Kale.

That just proves Kale > Kefla.


Goku was just playing with Berserk Kale and wasn't even close serious. Did it seem for you that Goku vs. BKale was the same as Goku against Jiren in episode 109? Nope.

In anime, SSB Goku > BKale, no doubt.

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Goku looked in a panic to me.

And Jiren acted. Kale was powerful enough to make him do something.


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Can't be the only one imagining Galan wearing a kimono when he posts.
Well NOW I am....


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While a fresh Blue was no match for Berserk Kale.

That just proves Kale > Kefla.


It was stated that Goku was using slightly more power than a Super Saiyan 2 when he fought Kale in his SSB form.


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Can't be the only one imagining Galan wearing a kimono when he posts.


I always assumed that people post in KMC while naked.


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So LSSJ Kale, at her weakest level, casually ragdolled the living shit out of Golden Freeza... Then SSB Goku entered the fray and seemed to contend with her w/o much of an issue(before she powered up more, of course.) This seems to imply that in the manga, SSB Goku > Golden Freeza.

Additionally, I was somewhat surprised that 4th form Freeza felt the need to use his Golden transformation against SSJ Caulifla in the first place. Even his 4th form should have been FAR beyond her, given that he was already approaching God-tier power in that state... But I digress. /shrug


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Well, the manga power levels do differ a lot, and ssj Caulifla was going toe to toe with his 4th form. So Golden form allowed him the power to toy with her.


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Even his 4th form should have been FAR beyond her, given that he was already approaching God-tier power in that state...


Based on...?


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The RoF film, and Goku's stated base-level power in that moment(which was not directly contradicted in the anime's rendition either.)


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Well NOW I am....


Not in front of Gatebox ChichiI!


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To be honest Frieza did not seem concerned with Kale. He was not even taking her seriously. (Prior to powering up that is.)


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The RoF film, and Goku's stated base-level power in that moment(which was not directly contradicted in the anime's rendition either.)


Movie canon =/= Anime canon =/= Manga canon

Frieza's revival arc wasn't covered in the DBS manga. This is the very first time we've seen him fight.


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Beautiful ownage. Galan just wet his kimono thumb up


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Movie canon =/= Anime canon =/= Manga canon

Frieza's revival arc wasn't covered in the DBS manga. This is the very first time we've seen him fight.


That just makes it more disappointing


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Movie canon =/= Anime canon =/= Manga canon

Frieza's revival arc wasn't covered in the DBS manga. This is the very first time we've seen him fight.
They are canon with one another when no contradiction occurs. There is no direct contradiction here, atm.

The events of RoF were still mentioned in the primary DBS manga(a few times), so we know it was still intended to have happened in manga continuity as per the film... There's also the 3 part RoF manga that was released concurrently with the film. Even though it was still written by Toyotaro, overseen by Toriyama, and published under the SAME brand as all other DBS manga, I know you still believe it doesn't 'count'... So I won't get into that again, because it is ultimately a huge waste of time.

Either way, RoF still happened in the manga.


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To be honest Frieza did not seem concerned with Kale. He was not even taking her seriously. (Prior to powering up that is.)


That's right. Freeza said he just needed to take her seriously.

His kick did knock the blue out of Goku.


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Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.

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His kick did knock the blue out of Goku.
I'm thinking that's because Goku was distracted by Kale at the time. Freeza totally blindsided him.


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Sure, but the way Dragon Ball mechanics work, is you're either depowered via distraction, or able to overpower an opponent. If you're more powerful and powered up, then even if your back is turned, you won't be hurt much. Say, by Vegeta attacking Freeza's back with a big attack.

Goku was amped and ready to take Kale, so I'm assuming his defenses were at max strength.


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Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.

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