What was established is that both the anime and the manga are canon. As of now, neither of them are considered a secondary source. Yet they contradict each other on a regular basis, making it impossible to reconcile them as a single continuity. That is why I, and almost everyone else I know of, treat them as separate entities. It requires the least assumptions.
And? You throwing your opinion around is only a problem because you present it as authoritative.
Yes, of course you find your strawman fallacious. Back to my argument, I believe I dedicated half of my last post to clarifying that my contention is: "it wasn't shown therefore it may be different." So either you're not reading, or you're intentionally misrepresenting my post... feels like deja vu.
Treat them as seperate continuities, and give Superman the win over both. As you argued convincingly.
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So it was never established in any canon source(s), then? This is just your opinion, then?
K.
Who is doing what now?
Read your above response again... Yet you are accusing ME of trying to present my opinion as "authoritative"? Lol, the irony...
Cool.
Because "may be different" is hardly the evidence I asked for. It is your opinion and nothing more.
The RoF film is canon. The RoF anime is canon. We know RoF happened in the manga. Until I get a legitimate reason to assume the RoF arc(particularly Goku's fight with Freeza) was intended to have played out vastly different in manga-canon, I'm not just going to assume it did...cuz personal reasons or w/e.
That is where my opinion stems from, and I feel like it is perfectly logical... Far moreso than the alternative you have presented here.
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*For the record, I would very much LOVE it if the respective manga and anime canons WERE actually established to be taking place in twin/separate universes. That'd be THE most cohesive thing that could possibly happen to the franchise at this point.
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Well, that kind of in-universe explanation might be difficult. Things like the mechanics of God ki don't seem like things that Trunks could change. Then again, with Dragon Ball Heroes coming out, who knows what sort of crazy shit's gonna happen.
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It's Toriyama dude. He just makes it up as he goes along and forgets about things. He forgot about Launch. He forgot that Super Saiyan 2 was a thing. That kind of in-universe explanation could totally happen.
Toriyama's involvement in the manga is very hands-on, actually. He writes scripts for each chapter/arc, and Toyotaro creates the artwork around that script. Granted, Toyotaro is given the freedom to add his own little 'twists' to the books here and there, but the final drafts(including any additions by Toyotaro) are ultimately reviewed/edited/approved by Toriyama himself before they are published: https://i.imgur.com/4riz19j.jpg https://i.imgur.com/IJA0bVz.jpg
He's got more trust in Toei and it's easier to supervise one dude drawing pictures than try to make changes to an anime in progress.
The only difference is he can edit the Manga if he finds something he doesn't like or sees that Toyoboyo is actually out of his mind.
His involvement is overplayed. He draws up some shit, watches blurry genital porn. Reads a script, blurs things he doesn't like, and then watches blurry genital porn again. He added 3 words as opposed to 1 to the manga. He cares way more about it and as such it's super canon.
Can we expect a Dragon Ball Resurrection ‘C’ movie, since Cell is the next Dragon Ball villain?
Yamamuro: (laughs) As an animator, I would not like that, since Cell's complicated design is really hard to draw. When he is standing still, it doesn't matter, but when he is moving, because of all the spots on his body, it takes so long to draw him every time. You have to calculate how he's going to move perfectly, and then you have to check and recheck the result every time. That's so much work!
Toriyama also went on record expressing how much he hated drawing all those spots on Cell's body in the manga panel for panel, so I can imagine how annoying it must've been to do so frame-for-frame for the animators.
Here's a simple solution then... Give Cell a new form where he doesn't have the spots. I get that this kind of thing is sometimes the price for making a character over-detailed, but still, I could do without the spots if it meant Cell finally being back.