Yeah, sonics have defeated her in the past. Cyborg might have the durability to survive until sonics or some other device can put her down. Don't really know a lot about new Cyborg.
Do you still think the scan I posted was non canon, carver?
But no, we are not comparing feats - we all know IW can do forcefields, bubbles to the brain etc. I am saying, without consciously thinking it, Cyborg's automatic systems will kick in if he is in danger, and will fire the white noise cannon - as confirmed on panel.
We know sonics affect Sue - as confirmed on panel.
So the bell rings, ASSUMING IW goes for the kill and attempts to blow Cyborg up from the inside off the bat (which, I am sure, you and I both would agree is OOC for her), his AI would kick in and fire the white noise at her.
Yeah, standard rules favors him imo. If morals were off, I'd guess a bubble brain bomb could out quick draw the sonic cannon.
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At the start of a fight, against someone who hasn't harmed her or her family? Scans?
If she DOES do it (and will be awaiting scans of this bloodlusted Sue), his AI kicks in, and without his brain controlling it, fires the white noise cannon (as shown in my scan). Which, as his own brain won't be controlling it, would be pretty damn devastating.
This is of course, ignoring the MASSIVE speed advantage he has in processing information and formulating tactics.
They are starting some distance away. I'm pretty sure she would be ok once he launch this attack.
She recently did it against Hulk and she knows Hulk doesn't kill...especially this Hulk that has been working closely with Reed. Yeah, he gets a bubble to the brain.
Except Cyborg - looks like a cyborg. A kid, still. That's how in JLA 1, they knew not to attack him (even though he was using Boom Tubes like the parademons). His appearance is still a major factor.
He operates at the speed of thought. Except he thinks far faster than normal humans. Want me to showcase scans of his computer mind working quickly? It's almost as if you don't know who Cyborg is. Have you only watched him in the JLA movies?
I'm still not seeing why we would believe she would do the brain bubble right away in this fight. Apparently doing it 1-5x times out of thousands of comic book appearances means you do it regularly. Sounds like your debating powersets carver.
I know who Cyborg is, Dark. What I am saying is, can he attack her faster than the speed of thought? Because that's how fast he would have to be in order to do the things you are saying he would do.
Yes, his appearance is a major factor but she can disassemble him. Her options are wide.
New 52? Similar to IW brain bubble I'd say. He uses sonics a lot, but the white noise attack? I honestly am not even sure how many times he has done it
Not to mention, of course, the first time he used it.
So, if we were to take every fight DCnU Cyborg has been in (and bear in mind, he's often used as a transport, or he usually stays behind to coordinate things on the Watchtower), then it's a pretty high percentage. Certainly higher than your attempts at IW and arguing powersets. We argue in character here, carver.
Not to mention, your attempts at 'in character' arguing are laughable. As I have shown, Cyborg's weapons systems can attack WITHOUT Cyborg even knowing what is happening. You are, in effect, attempting to argue that a cold, logical AI would 'in character' decide NOT to use it. Whether Cyborg himself uses it is moot - ultimately, if IW is going for the attack, his weapon systems take over.
Are you sure all of those attacks are one of the same and even if it was, it seems like the distance of the attack sucks. That's my opinion on it though. So how many times out of 10 would he do this attack?
Look at the configuration of his arm flaps (lol). His arm looks like a starfish. Some artists depict it as red, usually white though. Sometimes accompanied by a VUMMMM sound, sometimes not. What is constant, though, is that it looks like a starfish.
As for the distance, it's down to his control - he IS a hero, after all.
But if he is in danger, and his brain is being attacked - his AI will take over, and it will be devastating for IW. Her best bet is NOT to attack his mind, otherwise, Cyborg will not be in control, and the machine would destroy her.
As for how many times....he's been in, what, 15 fights? And has used them nearly 10 times? So 2 in 3 times, if you REALLY want to go the h1a8 route, or nearly 70% of the time.
But this assumes he is in control.
When he ISN'T in control, 10 out of 10 times, the AI defaults and uses the white noise cannon. And it is on maximum power - disintegrating everything before it.