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(Rematch) The Hulk (MCU) VS Thor (MCU)
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What other instances? Black Widow was the only other human Hulk chased after before he got sidelined by Thor. After that, Hulk focused on the biggest threat that hurt him (Thor) and neglected the others.

As for the pilot, Hulk threw him away. That action would have caused the pilot's death. That was as good as a death throw. Except for the fact that he had a parachute. But I doubt Hulk knew that he had a parachute. For all intents and purposes, Hulk did try to kill that parachute.

As for Hulk landing in a barn, he didn't control his fall. Only good luck (and plot) allowed him to land in that barn.


That wasn't a death throw. Where are you getting this from?

Black Widow should've died from a hit by the Hulk if Hulk was out to kill her. He wasn't as insane as you all are trying to make him out to be.


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That wasn't a death throw. Where are you getting this from?

Black Widow should've died from a hit by the Hulk if Hulk was out to kill her. He wasn't as insane as you all are trying to make him out to be.


So, throwing someone off a plane from 30,000 ft up in the air isn't a death throw?

Also I just rewatched Avengers last night. Hulk had trouble chasing down BW. He hit her with nothing more than a flick of the hand. Not even a backhanded slap. It's kinda hard to punch someone when you're chasing after them.


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Carver is just upset that the best an insane with rage Hulk could do to a holding back Thor was give him a slightly bloody nose.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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Carver is just upset that the best an insane with rage Hulk could do to a holding back Thor was give him a slightly bloody nose.


And had to use a cheap shot at that.


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So, throwing someone off a plane from 30,000 ft up in the air isn't a death throw?

Also I just rewatched Avengers last night. Hulk had trouble chasing down BW. He hit her with nothing more than a flick of the hand. Not even a backhanded slap. It's kinda hard to punch someone when you're chasing after them.


You acted as if the throw would killed him. It would have if Hulk tried.

He didn't have trouble chasing her down. You're doing too much. Stop trying to downplay the character.

Uuuummmm, a flick from Hulk (even though it was more than that) still should've killed her if he was as raged out as you say he was.


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And had to use a cheap shot at that.


No cheap shot bro and Thor got stomped by Hulk. Treated like a ragdoll. Thor have all of that versatility and is still the second most powerful on the team. Pretty sure Tony would rather have Hulk as his power house than Thor.


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Yes, a massively holding back Thor was at a disadvantage at the point the fight was interrupted. but it's not like he was seriously injured. the worst he got was a very minor nose bleed.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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You acted as if the throw would killed him. It would have if Hulk tried.

He didn't have trouble chasing her down. You're doing too much. Stop trying to downplay the character.

Uuuummmm, a flick from Hulk (even though it was more than that) still should've killed her if he was as raged out as you say he was.


Yes, getting thrown off your plane at 30,000 feet would kill you. Or did you think a human can survive getting thrown from that height?

So Hulk didn't have trouble chasing down Black Widow which is why he took like a whole minute to catch up to her? Sure he's a faster runner, but at the time he flicked her he had only just barely reach her. I'm not downlplaying the character at all. But there's a big difference between actually backhanding someone and just casually pushing aside or flicking someone with your hand. The fact that Black Widow flew off and slammed into the wall with such a light hit shows you just how strong Hulk is. And the fact that he was completely ready to smash her skull in is proof that he was completely raged out.



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No cheap shot bro and Thor got stomped by Hulk. Treated like a ragdoll. Thor have all of that versatility and is still the second most powerful on the team. Pretty sure Tony would rather have Hulk as his power house than Thor.


It was a cheap shot and no amount of willful thinking on your part will change that. Hulk was unable to land a single hit on Thor while Thor on his feat, ready for Hulk and in an open area. Thor had to make a stupid move of trying to subdue the Hulk before Hulk could actually hit Thor.

That "ragdolling" you keep on mentioning is basically Hulk slamming Thor on the ground ONCE and then throwing him against the wall ONCE.

You can think of Hulk as the number 1 powerhouse all you want but it doesn't change the fact that Hulk can't kill multiple leviathans with one shot like Thor can nor can he devastate an entire landscape with one shot like Thor can.


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Yes, getting thrown off your plane at 30,000 feet would kill you. Or did you think a human can survive getting thrown from that height?

So Hulk didn't have trouble chasing down Black Widow which is why he took like a whole minute to catch up to her? Sure he's a faster runner, but at the time he flicked her he had only just barely reach her. I'm not downlplaying the character at all. But there's a big difference between actually backhanding someone and just casually pushing aside or flicking someone with your hand. The fact that Black Widow flew off and slammed into the wall with such a light hit shows you just how strong Hulk is. And the fact that he was completely ready to smash her skull in is proof that he was completely raged out.





It was a cheap shot and no amount of willful thinking on your part will change that. Hulk was unable to land a single hit on Thor while Thor on his feat, ready for Hulk and in an open area. Thor had to make a stupid move of trying to subdue the Hulk before Hulk could actually hit Thor.

That "ragdolling" you keep on mentioning is basically Hulk slamming Thor on the ground ONCE and then throwing him against the wall ONCE.

You can think of Hulk as the number 1 powerhouse all you want but it doesn't change the fact that Hulk can't kill multiple leviathans with one shot like Thor can nor can he devastate an entire landscape with one shot like Thor can.


It didn't kill the pilot.

Lol...if Hulk really wanted to kill her, he would've did it. He slightly slapped her against the wall, stood at her staring, raise his hand, then Thir shows up. Now if you want to see how a raged Hulk acts, look at his fight against Tony. Then compare it to his fight against Black Widow and Thor.

Not a cheap shot bro. Thor two handed his punch while they were in a fight and got punched across the room. Thor hits did nothing, Hulk hits did damage.

Slammed through the wall, grabbed, slammed through the table, grabbed, thrown against another table. Thor was helpless.

Thor can't kill any levs either without using a building to power up his attack. Hulk one shot killed one. Please provide scans of the one shot of the landscape. Are you talking about the scene where he fought the frost Giants (I hope you're not talking about that)?


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It didn't kill the pilot.

Lol...if Hulk really wanted to kill her, he would've did it. He slightly slapped her against the wall, stood at her staring, raise his hand, then Thir shows up. Now if you want to see how a raged Hulk acts, look at his fight against Tony. Then compare it to his fight against Black Widow and Thor.

Not a cheap shot bro. Thor two handed his punch while they were in a fight and got punched across the room. Thor hits did nothing, Hulk hits did damage.

Slammed through the wall, grabbed, slammed through the table, grabbed, thrown against another table. Thor was helpless.

Thor can't kill any levs either without using a building to power up his attack. Hulk one shot killed one. Please provide scans of the one shot of the landscape. Are you talking about the scene where he fought the frost Giants (I hope you're not talking about that)?


Pilot did not die because he had a parachute. He would have died had he not had one. I don't think an enraged Hulk is smart enough to distinguish between someone wearing a parachute and not. Might not even know what a parachute is.

Hulk lightly slapped her because that's all he could do at that point. You try putting a full powered punch against someone that you're running after. Let's see how easy it is for you to hit that someone. Hulk was ready to finish her off when Thor tackled him. Hulk was every bit as enraged when he chased after BW as when he fought IM. He was wrecking through everything in his path to get to BW. The only reason he paused after slapping her aside was because he slammed himself into a wall.

Hulk could not differentiate friend from foe when he fought Hulk. Same thing when he fought Thor. Unless you're telling me Scarlet Witch's mind control is more powerful than the mind gem?

Hulk smashed both Thor AND himself through the ceiling. That counts as a double hit for both of them. So technically, he grabbed Thor from the ground and slammed him on the ground, then grabbed him again and tossed him against the wall. Like I said, that was 2 hits for Hulk. TWO hits. One slam and one throw. 3 if you count his sucker punch.

He punched Thor while Thor was talking to him. That's a sucker punch no matter how you look at it.

As for Thor killing levs due to a building... do you have any proof that a building can amplify a lightning's charge? Because you know steel doesn't amplify lightning right? Merely conducts it?

And yes, I'm talking about Thor one-shotting the tundra landscape of the Frost Giants.


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FrothByte...

Let's Battlezone this. You said Hulk was as enraged as he was when he fought Ironman vs his showing against Thor. Let's BZ this and see what the judges think. No judges from the movie vs forum. Let's get reasonable judges from the movie vs Forum. Are you down?


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Buildings don't amp lightning, that is just fanboy speculation in an effort to downplay Thor's feat.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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Look at the scene.

https://youtu.be/sASg9aR8f2o

Look at how they highlight the building. Look at rbw camera showing us the lightning going up and down the building. Pretty freaking obvious. Denial!!!


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They highlighted the building to show how much Lightning Thor collected.

But there's no mention, hint or logic behind the assertion that the building was amping his Power.

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Never tried battlezone. How does that work?


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Doesn't need to be mentioned since it's obvious. The building played a part in Thor showing.


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Never tried battlezone. How does that work?


Maximum of 5 post on a topic for each of us. We have 3 voters giving their decision on what our 5 post consist of. Whoever wins, the topic should not be discussed again because the BZ settled that scene or whatever it is that we are debating. We choose 3 people and have to come to an agreement on the 3. I'll let you post first or if you want me to go first, it doesn't matter. We take turns until we used up all of the 5 post we are given. Voters decide and one of them announce the winner. Whoever gets 2 out of 3 votes wins. Our topic is Hulk vs Thor and Ironman. You said Hulk was as enraged against Thor as he was against Ironman. My goal is to prove you wrong.


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Look at the scene.

https://youtu.be/sASg9aR8f2o

Look at how they highlight the building. Look at rbw camera showing us the lightning going up and down the building. Pretty freaking obvious. Denial!!!
That is silly... there was never a mention of Thor needing the tower to pull off of the feat and with his recent feat in Age of Ultron it shouldn't even be a question anymore of Thor needing to use other objects to hold power to do big feats. His city busting feat didn't have him holding unto a tower all he did was charge up his hammer.


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Gonna bump this thread. Anyone seen Thor Ragnarok? All out Thor w/out Mjolnir vs all out Hulk.

All MCU debates about Hulk vs Thor end with this movie. Hulk is physically stronger. Thor is an absolute tank. Keep in mind this is a Thor less powerful than when he has the hammer, and still, their fight goes the way it does when Thor turns it UP. Don't want to spoil it, but it is made clear who is superior overall in a one on one all out fight. Can't really argue against it..debate is over. Even the spectators of the fight see it and chant for *him* (whichever it is)

Also, I've lurked these boards for years. Carver9, I am a big fan. When it comes to your textbook (literally) confirmation bias, I can't tell if you are just an exceptionally gifted troll trying to not be taken seriously for laughs, or if you are legitimately out of your mind biased for Hulk Either way, keep it up, the joke of your presence on this forum is hilarious.

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Ill wait for Ragnarok before placing my opinion.


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