1. Ok, he "went for the kill" against Frost Giants in his first movie yet he never went "all out" against any of them. It wasn't needed to kill them so he didn't do it.
2. Ok here's where you are completely 100% wrong. YOU can kill without meaning to with something as simple as a punch in the right location. You really think Thor could not accidently kill someone with a hammer strike?
3. You are acting as if that was all that happened there. Like Thor was just hanging out in the woods minding his own business and Cap shows up and threw him into a rage with a sentence. Thor was becoming more and more pissed as the night went on and for whatever reason that was the straw.
Because Thor is not a killer/murderer. He only unleashed the lightning after Tony already showed he could take some by tanking(if that can be called tanking) the hammer toss. I don't know if Tony was giving it his all, but he sure got pumped when Thor accidentally overcharged him.
I didn't say Thor was holding back, did I? I said he started the fight mad, and gradually became angrier until Tony and Cap's interference prompted him to bust the forest.
Hard to tell with Tony. Thor was angry, but not "immediately going out for the instant kill" like you are trying to claim.
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Last edited by Zack Fair on May 6th, 2015 at 06:42 PM
I think you are basing your argument off of collateral damage and I disagree with everything you said. Example...we have seen what Hulk punching power could achieve (big worm showing and the shockwaves made during his fight with Ironman). Just because we didn't see that kind of power during his fight against Thor, would you say Hulk was holding back?
Some scenes are shown different. Sometimes you get an explosive showing of collateral damage and sometimes you don't. Doesn't mean the character was holding back.
Not one thing I said was about collateral damage. No I wouldn't say Hulk was holding back, I would say Hulk didn't hit Thor like the hit the other two because he couldn't. Also the L-punch would have sent Thor flying, not crumpled him up in a similar manner
Hulk's clearly the favorite if this was purely hand to hand and Thor had no Mjolnir (Although I think it'd still be a crazy battle due to Thor's ridiculous durability/damage soak that is definitely on par with Hulk's imo, far superior h2h skills and own immense strength) but in all out battle Thor wins.
With all due respect to the Hulk, but as it stands, ONE lightning charged strike from Mjolnir would f*ck his day up right now.
If it isn't about collateral then again, you honestly don't have anything helping you with your argument here about Ironman vs Thor. The only thing you have is assumptions. No hard facts at all. Thor wanted Tony out if his way...if there was a power difference as big as you say it is, then he should've been able to easily dismantle Ironman. Wasn't the case here. We seen a long fight between the two. An even fight. Hell, Ironman landed the most blows. So again, I disagree with everything you said.
Well if we're just talking about collateral damage then Thor clearly has the most destructive capabilities. Neither IM nor Hulk has ever created damage equivalent to the jotunheim buster.