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Originally posted by Silent Master
Changing the topic, means you have no defense to my claim that you were using a no limit fallacy.

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Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Whatever SM. Believe what you wish. You are entitled to your opinion although unfounded.

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Originally posted by Silent Master
Yet, you are unable to refute it.

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Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
1. It looks like metal! If it looks like metal then it is metal most likely. If it isn't metal then you must present evidence strong enough to rebuke its physical aspect.

Do you have evidence saying it is not metal?

Even if it isn't metal. It clearly conducts electricity as seen in when the Lightning stroke the armor. So it doesn't really matter, it has the same properties as a metal (conducts electricity).

2. FrothByte, i never said a Lightning would cause 0 damage on the Hulk. I said that ELECTRICITY isn't proven to damage the Hulk.

The Lightning could harm the Hulk. But a Lightning's main hazzard is it's electricity. The raw impact of the Lightning wouldn't prove enough to defeat the Hulk.

3. Yes. But the Hulk has seen to withstand things NO LIVING ORGANISM COULD! e.g. Void of Space, Extreme Heats, Extreme impacts, etc.

You need to understand that saying something would harm the hulk taking the above into consideration would require proof of it!

4. The Leviathan's armor conducts electricity right? It's obvious a metal. However you want to turn the blind eye to it! Doesn't really matter.

You agree that the Armor conducts electricity as clearly seen on the battle of NY?

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Originally posted by FrothByte
1. I'm not saying it's not metal. I'm saying you can't just assume it's metal just because it looks like it. Especially when it's from an alien life form. Do you realize how stupid that logic sounds? "Oh it kinda looks like metal, it must be metal - even though this creature comes from a planet I've never even heard of".

2. Thor's lightning is way more powerful than regular lightning. No regular lightning ever had the raw kinetic energy to decimate acres of ice and create a shockwave like what Thor did to the frost giant world. And, as I keep repeating, Hulk has never tanked a blow that strong before, unless you care to post some proof?

3. When did Hulk survive the vacuum of space? As for the others, there's a difference between being immune and being able to withstand something. I can withstand the bite of an ant, that doesn't mean I'm immune to pain. Hulk can withstand the heat of being in proximity to Surtur, that doesn't mean he can walk around in the sun.

And bottom line is, there is no single evidence to point that Hulk is immune to electrocution. He can probably withstand higher amperes and voltages than the regular human, but that doesn't mean that he won't experience pain given a high enough charge.

Besides, why do you act like Thor's lightning is just as powerful as a regular lightning when it's been shown to do a lot more?

4. Agree that Leviathan armor conducts electricity. However, we have no idea how much conductivity it actually has. It might conduct very little electricity and it just so happens that Thor's lightning is just that powerful.

In the end, this matters little, because human bodies conduct electricity too. If you want to prove that Hulk's body doesn't conduct electricity then that's up to you to prove.

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Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
1. You know that the Universe is made of matter right? That matter is comprised of the Elements of the Periodic table.

You know that 90% of the periodic table is comprised of metals e.g. Aluminum, Iron, Gold, Silver, Titanium etc?

It looks like a metal and behaves like a metal, then it must be a metal!!!

2. Stop attributing the destructive force of a lightning to merely kinetic energy!!!

Kinetic Energy does take a part, but most of it is due to the electricity and heat produced by it!

So again, just KE didn't caused it!

Also you realize Jotunheim is made of Ice? A lightning's heat would debilitate the ice making it easier to break!

When Thor destroyed Sokovia he used this hammer. Which obviously already produces massive KE!

3. Not the Vacuum of Space sorry. No oxigen.

When the quinjet left earth Hulk was stranded in space. He eventually ran out of oxigen inside the Quinjet, which proves Hulk doesn't need O2 to survive.

It proves Hulk is immune to extreme heats. Whether he can survive into the sun, that would be a MOST LIKELY since he showed no harm from Surtur's encounter (Who is superhot).

I am not, Thor's lightning>normal lighthing. Still doesn't matter, if Hulk is immune to electricity, then the lightning isn't that dangerous to him.

4. Nice.

So leviathan armor conducts electricity since it's a metal.

If you were to wear that armor in a way that ALL YOUR PARTS ARE COVERED and Thor was to cast a lighting at you, would you survive? Or would you get electrocuted?

Well i guess it's obvious since the lightning hit the armor, which conducted the electricity to the Leviathan....Either way answer the question.

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Originally posted by FrothByte
After writing all that stuff, where is your proof that Hulk is immune to electricity? Stop dodging. It's not worth addressing your points when all you do is strawman.

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Originally posted by Silent Master
Nothing you've said proves that the Hulk is immune to electricity, plus the clip never shows any of the lightning even touching the Hulk.

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Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Taking into consideration your previous concesions:

1. Thor's lightning is more powerful than a normal Lightning.
2. Leviathan's armor conducts electricity (Clearly visible via Screen Feats).

Here is my evidence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sv_an8I2ME0

Minute 6:20


Thor summons a massive lightning that strikes the Leviathan!

Electricity can clearly be seen being conducted through the armor. The leviathan falls to the ground dead! His armor is still sparking from the MASSIVE CHARGE he received!!!

HOWEVER. THERE IS THESE GREEN BAREFOOTED BEAST STANDING JUST OVER THE ARMOR. A COUPLE OF FEAT AWAY FROM THE POINT WHERE THE LIGHTNING HIT RECIEVING NO CLEAR DAMAGE!

My point has been clearly proven. Hulk is immune to electrical charges! Any other organism would have gotten shocked and scorched by such a lighting. Hulk seems to be just fine!

Any further attempt on your behalf to say that Hulk is vulnerable to lightning will have to be proven. I've given my evidence.

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Originally posted by FrothByte
Hold on. You're saying that because Hulk is not bothered by some left over static that's buzzing close to him but not touching him, you think that proves he is invulnerable to Thor's lightning?

That's got to be the shittiest reasoning ever. That kind of "proof" would get you laughed out of even a highschool debate team.

That's like saying I'm invulnerable to tazers because I can hold a triple A battery and not get electrocuted.

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Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA! HOW FUNNY! HAHAHA.

"SOME BUZZING'...."STATIC!" HAHAHAHAHA.

OMG! THAT WAS SOME SERIOUS SHIT RIGHT THERE!

I Realize why Quanchi stopped debating! HAHAHA.

LOL!!!!!!

You claimed that Thor's Lightning are more powerful than a normal lightning.

A normal lightning would desintegrate a normal person if you were standing at that distance from it.

Adding the fact that the ground is made of Metal and Hulk is barefooted.
Electricity should have been able to shock him.

You have lost the debate FrothByte, as usual.

Now i think i'll better spend my time on other debates, since it's clear you are THAT IRRATIONAL.

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Originally posted by FrothByte
Except you're the only one assuming that the leviathan's armor is some kind of super conductor. I personally don't see anything on screen to convince me it conducts electricity any more than a living body would. And Hulk was never touched by that electricity.

And when all is said and done, there's still nowhere here that shows Hulk can tank a direct lightning bolt from Thor. And we're just talking about electricity. You haven't even begun to address the fact that Hulk has not tanked anything with the kind of destructive kinetic force that Thor's lightning blasts have.

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Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
You agreed to that FrothByte! Read your above statements.

Now that i've given you the evidence you are trying to change your words?

I've given you the evidence. The discussion is over unless you bring evidence that proves Hulk can be shocked by electricity.

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Originally posted by FrothByte
Ok, now you're really getting confused. You're saying you proved Hulk is immune to electricity by providing a clip where Hulk wasn't hit by electricity?

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Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
He is standing over metal which conducts electricity! LOL. You really want me to elaborate!!!???

FrothByte i've given you the evidence stop trying to evade/avoid. Leave that for Silent Master

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Originally posted by FrothByte
Do you know how electrical conduction works? Do you know just how conductive that Leviathan's armor is? Are you able to compute for the ampere and voltage of what Hulk supposedly felt?

Just because something conducts electricity doesn't mean that it conducts the entire current of that electricity.

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Originally posted by FrothByte
Do you know how electrical conduction works? Do you know just how conductive that Leviathan's armor is? Are you able to compute for the ampere and voltage of what Hulk supposedly felt?

Just because something conducts electricity doesn't mean that it conducts the entire current of that electricity.