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He didn't though, he was on the Back foot the entire time and only actually won when a rage induced force-strength match with Vader put him ahead. Vader wasn't trying to kill him, he was trying to convert him, Luke had no such reservations at that point.
Oh, and Meetra beat a superior force user on a "Collosal geyser of pure dark side energy" that made her physically ill, using her skills with a blade. Noting of course that Traya was herself a Lightsaber Master.
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See, Lightsaber only includes all saber bolstering powers, and Force Enlightenment is literally the highest tier of Saber-boosting powers you can have, tbh.
Last edited by Selenial on May 15th, 2015 at 10:09 PM
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Yeh but I'm confused by your logic. Let's analyse this right?
I've said she has: Speed advantage, Strength advantage, knowledge advantage, skill advantage, experience advantage and more.
Y'all's response is: He beat Vader doe.
Well, no. There were other reasons behind why he beat Vader. We don't have conclusive evidence to say Surik wouldn't, they've never fought. A>B>C logic is fail logic, so prove he's better at any of the above categories and we'll talk.
How does the Exile have a speed, strength, and skill advantage? "He beat Vader doe," is good evidence that she lacks all of those things here, and knowledge won't exactly make her a Battlemaster.
Also, Luke was holding back way more in the beginning then Vader was, at least Vader was actively trying to attack him, when Luke was all "I will not fight you, Father".
Seriously, Luke didn't even make an attempt to hurt him in the slightest until Vader started spouting all that shit about Leia.
Luke probably takes this in a decent fight if anything. I'm not sure where to rank her in terms of skill, but none of what's being posted suggests she could defeat someone who can fight on even terms with Vader.
__________________ "Happiness is a lie. Life is horror. The light is always dying all across the universe. The last star will flicker out someday, when it does, all that remains is shadow. And I will be its king!"'-Amahl Farouk
Meetra is a highly competent lightsaber combatant, IMHO. She outdueled Fallen Jedi Master Atris, Handmaidens, Darth Sion, Darth Traya and Imperial Guards. This is very impressive performance since most of these opponents are officially master swordsmen.
A single loss doesn't takes away from Meetra's holistic performance. Luke Skywalker have lost and struggled in battles too, do we hold his losses and struggles against him?
Meetra has feats to put her very easily above Saesee Tiin, though. She just has nothing to indicate she can defeat someone that bested Vader. Saesee is quite literally nothing but accolades and a brief spar with Windu
__________________ "Happiness is a lie. Life is horror. The light is always dying all across the universe. The last star will flicker out someday, when it does, all that remains is shadow. And I will be its king!"'-Amahl Farouk
May 15th, 2015 10:00 PM
Thanks Scribble!
